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" Just show how not all liberals believe in gun control. "

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SOS24 replied to the thread Contacting state Reps..
" I have written my representatives on numerous occasions and will continue despite knowing that they most likely donot even read it or only pay attention to what the topic/stance is. Most I have not received anything back, but I will never forget writing about my support for the Veterans 2A Protection Act and getting back an email talking about mass shootings, specifically VT. "

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Dallas60 replied to the thread Jeremy Kettler case challenge @ SCOTUS.
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Quote Originally Posted by ccw9mm View Post
Though, we should never forget that "the state" is the core problem in all this mess (with the RKBA). It's in the state's best interest (whether we're speaking of the Fed or the State or the county or town) to keep the status quo when it comes to whatever they say going as "law" and whatever we the "little people" say matters not. What matters is keeping the screws tightened, squeezing out liberty until only control is left. And so, the State in question can't very well step up to say the whole house of cards is a house of cards and a corrupt one, at that, else it'll be seen as rogue and lose all its credibility as the arbiter of authority. Can't have that, if "the state" is to survive such challenges.

I'd like to see the guy win. I think he's got a reasonable shot at it. And it doesn't surprise me that "the powers that be" won't step up to support, protect and defend the very thing they (as reps and officers) all swore they'd support, protect and defend. It's just the way such people roll, these days. Typical, IMO.
the state passed a law, saying the suppressor were legal in their state as long s they were manufactured and stayed within the state, IIRC. so the man was following state law, in good conscience and intents. now the state should be stepping up and helping defend his position. but IMO, they are letting hang out to dry and using him for their own test case to see what happens at the federal level. that IMO is totally wrong. he's the state's sacrificial lamb going to the slaughter. they are using him for their own agenda.

I'd like to see him win too, but I don't see it happening. I really hope this is one time I'm proven wrong, and I do think he has better shot at it, than the few previous cases that have challenged it. one plus is he was abiding by the law of his state. "

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Ghost1958 replied to the thread Arizona police body cam shows boy, 14, fleeing before being shot by cop.
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Quote Originally Posted by Dallas60 View Post
Ghost, when someone needs to explain the obvious to you, it's hardly worth the effort, since it clearly is not likely you would understand.

you enjoy your cop bashing. you seem pretty good at it. at least, if I'm going to bash someone, I'll wait until all or most of the facts are out first before I commence doing so.

I exiting our of this one.

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Ghost1958 replied to the thread The right to keep and bear arms..
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Quote Originally Posted by SOS24 View Post
You are right about the RTKBA. What we have nowis a two part issue imho:
- many of us view ourselves as good law-abiding citizens and have a negative view of those who choose not to obey laws. Because of that we try to work with the confines of government and legal system that we have, rather than disobey a law because we feel it is wrong,
- we have been lulled into accepting small concessions and infringements because they were significant enough to revolt against. Also,the laws are not significant enough infringements that people are not willing to risk the consequences of violating the laws them.

As far as whether or not we will ever get it back, I don’t think so. I think it is much like the boiling a frog by gradually heating the water. People will not be willingly revolt against gradual laws as long as they are just “small” infringements. I think it will take some major federal infringement that resulted in mass confiscations before people would openly fight against the laws.
In some states like NY there is major open non compliance now. The only reason there isn't an open fight going on in these states is the states involved have been smart enough to not enforce the offending laws.

A free people can only be trampled on so far. Eventually as more and more restrictions are put in place EVERYBODY begins to be affected and the kick back begins. "

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SOS24 replied to the thread The right to keep and bear arms..
" You are right about the RTKBA. What we have nowis a two part issue imho:
- many of us view ourselves as good law-abiding citizens and have a negative view of those who choose not to obey laws. Because of that we try to work with the confines of government and legal system that we have, rather than disobey a law because we feel it is wrong,
- we have been lulled into accepting small concessions and infringements because they were significant enough to revolt against. Also,the laws are not significant enough infringements that people are not willing to risk the consequences of violating the laws them.

As far as whether or not we will ever get it back, I don’t think so. I think it is much like the boiling a frog by gradually heating the water. People will not be willingly revolt against gradual laws as long as they are just “small” infringements. I think it will take some major federal infringement that resulted in mass confiscations before people would openly fight against the laws. "

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Ghost1958 replied to the thread Jeremy Kettler case challenge @ SCOTUS.
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Quote Originally Posted by BMcPhe44 View Post
I believe Rick McLaren (Republic of Texas) said almost the same thing so many years ago. He referenced his 10K member army of those revolutionaries that were coming coming to force his views on the people of Texas. I will see if I can find that stuff and some of the correspondence he produced. He believed that Texans would follow a crazy out-of-stater on a path to a life sentence in prison, he thought he could convince us to join him by force and threats. Didn't work out well for him even though a few of his points had some truth to them. There is a lesson to be learned there.

I will not argue that it might not come to that end but I will argue that the time had better be right and you better not misread the will of the majority when you embark on that violent journey because the result will be a short war with no good results, if you are wrong. I prefer to hope that infringement can be stopped in the short run and reversed in the long run by educating voters and reversing the creeping socialist brainwashing of our youth. I don't pretend that this is the answer, it is just my preferred vision of what is best for the Country.

ETA:


That might be the answer and I am glad to see that you agree that majority rule does exist in the words in the Constitution.
Actually I don't agree our nation is built on majority rule. We are a representative republic not a democracy. Majority rule 's individual rights is contradicted all through the COTUS.

The founders themselves saw no reason to include an amendment for the RTKABA, because they considered that preexisting right so basic it was a given. The RTKABA exists with or without the 2A.

As far as " embarking on a violent course" that is the feds move to make to start such a conflict. But if /when they do your very much mistaken. That conflict if it occurs will be many things, but short likely isn't one of them unless the fed is smarter than I give it credit for and quits. I don't think I'll live to see it at any rate, though I do believe it's coming. May be earlier than I think. "

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Dallas60 replied to the thread Arizona police body cam shows boy, 14, fleeing before being shot by cop.
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Quote Originally Posted by Ghost1958 View Post
I'll be very clear since you seem to have trouble understanding me.

History bears out that what any LEO says about a shooting he or she was involved in is suspect and not to be considered credible in a questionable shoot.
To many officers have been caught red handed, lying, tampering with evidence, and allowing other officers to cover their wrong doing to depend on what the officer involved says after the fact.

This officer may be clean as the driven snow in this shoot. But his calling in reporting the kid having a gun or making threatening moves is useless as far as knowing what actually occurred.

Can't say it any plainer than that.

BTW where did you see anyone with their shoulder blades someplace besides on their back? Id almost travel to Texas again to see that LOL.
Ghost, when someone needs to explain the obvious to you, it's hardly worth the effort, since it clearly is not likely you would understand.

you enjoy your cop bashing. you seem pretty good at it. at least, if I'm going to bash someone, I'll wait until all or most of the facts are out first before I commence doing so.

I exiting our of this one. "

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Dallas60 replied to the thread The right to keep and bear arms..
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Quote Originally Posted by Ghost1958 View Post
First I have never called anyone a nasty name unless you consider moderate, a nasty name. Name calling is your strong suit though you have I admit been extra careful here to avoid it. Wisely so I'd suspect.
2. Middle ground by definition means agreeing to regulation ie permmission of some kind to exercise a basic human right. Which instantly renders the RTKABA, the permission of the gov to own and carry a gun subject to gov approval.

Middle ground and rights are like oil and water. They don't mix.

And yes. IMHO moderate gun owners searching for middle ground are what lost our RTKABA in the first place. Middle ground ALWAYS means we give up a God given RTKABA, to appease tyrants. That's it and that's all it ever has been or will be.
don't even go there Ghost. you were just recently permanently banned from another forum for such behaviour. you resorted many times to calling other members of that forum all sorts of names when they disagreed with you, or challenged you. and you are still trying ti do it with me on several of your replies to me. it's rather subtle, but I can see it plain as day. and yes, one time I did resort to insults when you levied them first, and it also cost me a three day ban for doing so. but I also am still a member of that forum and you are not. say what you want, but those are the facts of that deal.

and still you can't see the forest for the trees. and trying to explain things to you, is like talking to a brick wall as usual. all, or nothing right? us moderates seeking the middle ground may be the only thing keeping the fight going. but you never would think of it that way. kind of like you can catch more bees with honey, than you can with vinegar! "

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SOS24 replied to the thread Careful, it might be illegal.
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Quote Originally Posted by Arejay View Post
There are knife law apps for cities and States. I have not used any of them so I can't say anything about them.
I also want say I'm glad and pleased to see your posting here again. Do you still find your fabriclip holster useful. I bought mine based on your review.
Thank you.

Although, i think you have me confused about the fabriclip. I do not have a fabriclip holster, although I have memtioned them for people wanting something for without a belt. I did however recently order onefor my PPS. "

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Ghost1958 replied to the thread Arizona police body cam shows boy, 14, fleeing before being shot by cop.
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Quote Originally Posted by Dallas60 View Post
but reading your replies, you seem to be making assumptions that automatically the officer is at fault or corrupt. no official statement has been made. no details of an investigation being made yet either. you are sounding just like the liberal MSM in condemning the officer before all the facts are made available.

maybe your crystal ball is working better than mine and you are seeing something the rest of us aren't. just saying. LOL!
I'll be very clear since you seem to have trouble understanding me.

History bears out that what any LEO says about a shooting he or she was involved in is suspect and not to be considered credible in a questionable shoot.
To many officers have been caught red handed, lying, tampering with evidence, and allowing other officers to cover their wrong doing to depend on what the officer involved says after the fact.

This officer may be clean as the driven snow in this shoot. But his calling in reporting the kid having a gun or making threatening moves is useless as far as knowing what actually occurred.

Can't say it any plainer than that.

BTW where did you see anyone with their shoulder blades someplace besides on their back? Id almost travel to Texas again to see that LOL. "

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Arejay replied to the thread Careful, it might be illegal.
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Quote Originally Posted by SOS24 View Post
I’ve used the CCW app. It may include non-gun law information in the “all laws” section, but definitely does not list all the weapon laws for each state. I wish it did or there was another app that did.
There are knife law apps for cities and States. I have not used any of them so I can't say anything about them.
I also want say I'm glad and pleased to see your posting here again. Do you still find your fabriclip holster useful. I bought mine based on your review. "

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Ghost1958 replied to the thread The right to keep and bear arms..
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Quote Originally Posted by Dallas60 View Post
and Ghost, that is exactly why you are fighting a losing battle IMO. you believe there is no middle ground. well, you are entitled to believe what you want. and you can call all of us that are looking for that middle ground all sorts of nasty names as you have many times in the past, and that's okay, and you can think we are the problem, rather than the solution, and that's okay too.

and until you and others wake up and take a real good look around, and figure out what really NEEDS to happen, in order to defend out gun rights, you're fighting a losing battle.

but, I'm probably not near as smart as you Ghost. but, I'll just keep plugging away in my own way.
First I have never called anyone a nasty name unless you consider moderate, a nasty name. Name calling is your strong suit though you have I admit been extra careful here to avoid it. Wisely so I'd suspect.
2. Middle ground by definition means agreeing to regulation ie permmission of some kind to exercise a basic human right. Which instantly renders the RTKABA, the permission of the gov to own and carry a gun subject to gov approval.

Middle ground and rights are like oil and water. They don't mix.

And yes. IMHO moderate gun owners searching for middle ground are what lost our RTKABA in the first place. Middle ground ALWAYS means we give up a God given RTKABA, to appease tyrants. That's it and that's all it ever has been or will be. "

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SOS24 replied to the thread Careful, it might be illegal.
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Quote Originally Posted by Saxdm9 View Post
The CCW app updates very frequently and shows up on our phone and tablets. I always check before traveling interstate. One can often find non-gun rules therein.
I’ve used the CCW app. It may include non-gun law information in the “all laws” section, but definitely does not list all the weapon laws for each state. I wish it did or there was another app that did. "

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Dallas60 replied to the thread New Colt .357.
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Quote Originally Posted by Arejay View Post
They'll probably offer 4 inch and larger barrels down the road. On their website I was surprised to see the differing versions they have already.
I'm glad to see them offering revolvers again. in the current market, everybody jumped on the wagon with semi-autos, and revolvers kind of got left behind somewhat. nice to see Colt back in the market after so many years.

and if they bring that King Cobra out in 4" barreled version, I may have to give one a try! "

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Dallas60 replied to the thread Arizona police body cam shows boy, 14, fleeing before being shot by cop.
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Quote Originally Posted by Ghost1958 View Post
Want to reread my post you quoted and try again?

Pretty sure I wrote I wasn't there so I can't say for sure.
Point being, which you missed apparently, was/is that whatever an officer calling AFTER shooting someone says, is to be taken with truckload of salt and is pretty much useless as far as knowing what actually happened.
but reading your replies, you seem to be making assumptions that automatically the officer is at fault or corrupt. no official statement has been made. no details of an investigation being made yet either. you are sounding just like the liberal MSM in condemning the officer before all the facts are made available.

maybe your crystal ball is working better than mine and you are seeing something the rest of us aren't. just saying. LOL! "

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SOS24 replied to the thread Careful, it might be illegal.
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Quote Originally Posted by welder516 View Post
One thing to remember when carrying a knife , it is a tool and never for self defense . I use mine to cut various items such as boxes , rope and never have it thinking I am going to stab someone with it .

Never tell anyone it is for self defense , I have been to NY City with a cane you know for walking and stability never to use it on someone .
That is true but in some states, especially with knives, the presumption is weapon and therefore you could be charged and then have to clearly articulate in court another reason for having it to be found innocent. NYC is notorious for arresting/charging people with knives. It is a good tax income because people who can’t afford to fightit in court or are afraid then plea bargain and pay a fine. "

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Dallas60 replied to the thread The right to keep and bear arms..
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Quote Originally Posted by Ghost1958 View Post
Just for starters. I think pretty much everyone here thinks the gov has no authority to ban bump stocks, ar15s, full auto, etc etc. With the exception of one or two I don't think you'll get much disagreement that a person should be able to obtain ,possess and carry whatever they please.

There are different views how to get to that point.

So. Consider yourself invited to unite in the effort to do away with BC, permits, fol signage, and all other gun regulations as they are all infringement.
Unite to take back the RTKABA, free from gov interference as the founders intended it to remain in this nation.

But make no mistake. Either we demand the RTKABA, free from any regulation, or we just keep asking gov permission as we do now.

Cannot support both. Either the RTKABA is A RIGHT, which by definition needs no permission. Or it isn't and we must jump thru gov hoops to carry a gun.

There is no middle ground.
and Ghost, that is exactly why you are fighting a losing battle IMO. you believe there is no middle ground. well, you are entitled to believe what you want. and you can call all of us that are looking for that middle ground all sorts of nasty names as you have many times in the past, and that's okay, and you can think we are the problem, rather than the solution, and that's okay too.

and until you and others wake up and take a real good look around, and figure out what really NEEDS to happen, in order to defend out gun rights, you're fighting a losing battle.

but, I'm probably not near as smart as you Ghost. but, I'll just keep plugging away in my own way. "

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Ghost1958 replied to the thread Arizona police body cam shows boy, 14, fleeing before being shot by cop.
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Quote Originally Posted by Dallas60 View Post
do you KNOW for a FACT he was shot in the back?

edited: because the article said rear shoulder blade area. so exactly where, until an autopsy report is out, isn't exactly definitive IMO.

Want to reread my post you quoted and try again?

Pretty sure I wrote I wasn't there so I can't say for sure.
Point being, which you missed apparently, was/is that whatever an officer calling AFTER shooting someone says, is to be taken with truckload of salt and is pretty much useless as far as knowing what actually happened.

See you edited your post as I answered.
Everyone I know keeps their rear behind them and shoulder blade in their back. Never recall seeing a shoulder blade on anyone's chest.

So if the article is right it's a pretty safe bet that yeah the kid was shot in the back. "

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Arejay replied to the thread New Colt .357.
" They'll probably offer 4 inch and larger barrels down the road. On their website I was surprised to see the differing versions they have already. "

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Dallas60 replied to the thread Arizona police body cam shows boy, 14, fleeing before being shot by cop.
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Quote Originally Posted by Ghost1958 View Post
Then that call means nothing.
Of course the officer, having shot a 14 yr old running away in the back, is going to say and make sure there is a gun or toy gun to cover his butt.

Much as van zant swore the boy he shot lunged at him with a knife when video showed plainly that did not occur.

I can't see the boy turning or a gun.
I wasn't there so I cannot say for sure.
But an officers call after shooting a teen in the back claiming he had a gun is worthless as far as knowing if there actually was one.
do you KNOW for a FACT he was shot in the back?

edited: because the article said rear shoulder blade area. so exactly where, until an autopsy report is out, isn't exactly definitive IMO. "

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Ghost1958 replied to the thread The right to keep and bear arms..
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Quote Originally Posted by Dallas60 View Post
so very true. money is what fights money.

and here's another issue I see. while there is very large number of law abiding gun owners in this country, they are not united in common cause of defending gun rights. there is no unity. unlike the anti-gun proponents, who are very united. they have a common goal nad it doesn't matter whether their motivations are political, or emotional, or from a matter of safety. they are united in common goal. gun owners are not united, and if we don't get united, they will beat us. just look at the opinions on bumpfire stocks. clear division among just gun owners on whether they should be legal or not. lets discuss fully auto firearms. again, you will see clear division on whether they should be legal or not. lets discuss AR type rifles. again, even can't get a clear and unified consensus just among gun owners!

so how can we fight those opposed to gun if we can't get united behind a common cause and goal? simple answer is, we can't and we're fighting a losing battle. some of you can't see the forest for the trees. sad to say, some of you are your own worst enemies. but you can't see it, or you don't want to see it.

I have been preaching about this on various gun forums for almost twenty years, and I have predicted many of the things we are seeing right now, many years ago. so this isn't exactly new news to me. but, as usual people ignore me, or brush me aside and call me nasty names.

until you get gun owners united in common cause, we aren't going to win our gun rights back. at best, we are delaying things in many states. and if you don't think it's bad, and won't get worse, look at the state of California.

but what the hell do I know? I'm just some old guy from East Texas.

Just for starters. I think pretty much everyone here thinks the gov has no authority to ban bump stocks, ar15s, full auto, etc etc. With the exception of one or two I don't think you'll get much disagreement that a person should be able to obtain ,possess and carry whatever they please.

There are different views how to get to that point.

So. Consider yourself invited to unite in the effort to do away with BC, permits, fol signage, and all other gun regulations as they are all infringement.
Unite to take back the RTKABA, free from gov interference as the founders intended it to remain in this nation.

But make no mistake. Either we demand the RTKABA, free from any regulation, or we just keep asking gov permission as we do now.

Cannot support both. Either the RTKABA is A RIGHT, which by definition needs no permission. Or it isn't and we must jump thru gov hoops to carry a gun.

There is no middle ground. "

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Dallas60 replied to the thread Motorcycle helmets - state law or not?.
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Quote Originally Posted by nedrgr21 View Post
Funny thing is, you can kinda go wrong in both directions. One cycle rag did some testing a while back and they found that one of the cheaper helmets actually protected your head better than the $500 helmets, but only at low speeds. If you only puttered around city streets, it was actually the better helmet than a Snell approved lid. However, the Snell helmet did much better at high speeds - pick your poison. At a certain point you can find yourself pay a whole lot for graphics or something else you don't need.
I always bought white or black helmets. I had a good friend that did all my airbrush work on my helmets. my wild paint jobs only cost me the price of twelve-pack of beer! "

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Dallas60 replied to the thread The right to keep and bear arms..
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Quote Originally Posted by oldnfat View Post
The only thing that can sway enough people (voters) to support the constitution is MONEY. Lots and lots of money. Powerful people with millions of dollars and the will to further the cause of freedom. Where are they? Who are they? Can you name one person with these attributes who openly, and earnestly supports RTKBA? Money controls the media, and the media unfortunately holds sway over the masses who will not think for themselves. The NRA has a meager amount of dollars (in comparison) to lobby and buy commercial time to dispute all the anti-gun propaganda. If the lie is repeated enough it appears to be the truth. Just sayin'.
so very true. money is what fights money.

and here's another issue I see. while there is very large number of law abiding gun owners in this country, they are not united in common cause of defending gun rights. there is no unity. unlike the anti-gun proponents, who are very united. they have a common goal nad it doesn't matter whether their motivations are political, or emotional, or from a matter of safety. they are united in common goal. gun owners are not united, and if we don't get united, they will beat us. just look at the opinions on bumpfire stocks. clear division among just gun owners on whether they should be legal or not. lets discuss fully auto firearms. again, you will see clear division on whether they should be legal or not. lets discuss AR type rifles. again, even can't get a clear and unified consensus just among gun owners!

so how can we fight those opposed to gun if we can't get united behind a common cause and goal? simple answer is, we can't and we're fighting a losing battle. some of you can't see the forest for the trees. sad to say, some of you are your own worst enemies. but you can't see it, or you don't want to see it.

I have been preaching about this on various gun forums for almost twenty years, and I have predicted many of the things we are seeing right now, many years ago. so this isn't exactly new news to me. but, as usual people ignore me, or brush me aside and call me nasty names.

until you get gun owners united in common cause, we aren't going to win our gun rights back. at best, we are delaying things in many states. and if you don't think it's bad, and won't get worse, look at the state of California.

but what the hell do I know? I'm just some old guy from East Texas. "

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" I missed it. I just found out Colt will be selling a three inch .357 based on their reintroduced "Cobra". Neat. I bought their new "Cobra".38 when it came out and I've really taken to it. Love Colt's new six shooter. Love the trigger. I'll be interested in picking one up for sure although it might be a little light for the magnum round.
https://media.shootingsportsmedia.co...ees/073104.jpg
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" As stated in Hoganbheag's post, pepper spray or some other nonlethal device (stun gun) might have been an option. I don't know if your employer would allow this type of self defense. If you are not trained in self defense and are proficient in that, I would not recommend any type of action against a seemingly superior opponent. Have someone call 911 immediately and retreat with the salesperson he verbally abused. "

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Dallas60 replied to the thread Jeremy Kettler case challenge @ SCOTUS.
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Quote Originally Posted by BMcPhe44 View Post
Of course there are violations of the NFA just as there are thousands of violations of all laws, both good and bad, and there are people arrested everyday for violating of the NFA. What does that prove? Laws violated in secret do nothing to get the bad laws rescinded. The people who break these laws should do what this guy has done and post it on the internet, send a video to LE. If they don't do that they are doing nothing to further the fight against more encroachment. People who keep their full autos buried and sneak them out at night to clean them are no more committed to the 2nd Amendment than those who grudgingly follow the law while speaking against it, giving money to organizations to fight it, convincing friends and family that it is unConstitutional. Those who buy the tax stamp and enjoy the silencer within the law are no less pro-gun than those break the law in secret, unless they actively support the law to begin with.

The guy in this article has gone the extra step, he has put his freedom and property on the line to demonstrate that the law is unConstitutional. Those hiding in the shadows breaking the law and those complying with the law, have not taken the step he took or the step the Founders took when they signed the Declaration, and until a majority of Americans are willing to do that we will continue down this road.
exactly! what I'm seeing are some doing some talking, but not putting their money where their mouths are. talk is cheap. actions speak louder than words.

and if some of you were half as committed to the cause of gun rights as you seem to proclaim on these gun forums, we would be reading about you on the internet, and seeing you on the TV news and hearing about you on the radio. it's easy to sit in the safety of your home and make great declarations on the internet, without having to put you self on the line and have to back up those words. reminds me of the brave talk I use to hear years ago in the bars when men got all licquored up.

personally, I admire the guy. he's brave soul for putting it on the line, but I also think he's on fool's errand as well. and I think he's being made a sacrificial lamb, since his state, (which passed the law!) hasn't stepped up to the plate and helped him out in this mess. shame on them! "

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nedrgr21 replied to the thread Jerry Miculek versus Bump Stock.
" AR's are about the best home defense gun out there - more power than a handgun, easy to suppress, doesn't stick out more than a handgun in an isosolese stance, projectile deflects and dumps most energy when going thru walls instead of making a bee-line straight thru the drywall. "

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oldnfat replied to the thread The right to keep and bear arms..
" The only thing that can sway enough people (voters) to support the constitution is MONEY. Lots and lots of money. Powerful people with millions of dollars and the will to further the cause of freedom. Where are they? Who are they? Can you name one person with these attributes who openly, and earnestly supports RTKBA? Money controls the media, and the media unfortunately holds sway over the masses who will not think for themselves. The NRA has a meager amount of dollars (in comparison) to lobby and buy commercial time to dispute all the anti-gun propaganda. If the lie is repeated enough it appears to be the truth. Just sayin'. "

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BMcPhe44 replied to the thread Jeremy Kettler case challenge @ SCOTUS.
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Quote Originally Posted by Ghost1958 View Post
The 2A factually and even by SCOTUS own words long before Heller did NOT grant the RTKABA.
The RTKABA is a preexisting right that by SCOTUS own words "in no way depends on the 2A for its existence ".

The NFA could have been derailed by those living before we were born. Except for OLe Vet 9f course lol.
But it wasn't. Due to gun owners of that period doing squat to stop it. Even the NRA supported it.
Liberty traded for false security.

As far as breaking the law to go to a federal court to undue a federal law, if there was the slightest chance of winning I'm perfectly willing if some deep pockets funded that ride.
However SCOTUS and most of the federal judicial system is corrupted to the point weakening a federal gun law is NOT going to happen. So in reality there is no point until a convention of states pulls the rug out from under the fed.

Simple as that.

I admire the man trying to undue THE NFA through SOTUS, but that route is a almost sure loser.
The natural laws are not the law of the land, they are foundation that the framers used to create the BOR and the COTUS, but if the 2nd Amendment was not codified in the COTUS you would not legally own a firearm today. Yes we know that these rights are given by God but they are made legal with the laws of man, whether we agree with that or not is irrelevant in determining if we can be arrested for breaking those laws that infringe the natural rights.

The reversal you seek through a Convention of States will require a "majority" of people in a "majority" of States to support it. You may believe that a "majority" of people back your views and perhaps if framed right you might get it passed but I don't think so. Doesn't mean I would not support it if it was an actual option, I just don't think it is realistic in todays society.

No good answers from me, but I can also see a bad outcome at some point. "

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BMcPhe44 replied to the thread Jeremy Kettler case challenge @ SCOTUS.
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But. When that attempt is made its highly likely the tyrants will find they face a much better equipped foe than they ever imagined.
I believe Rick McLaren (Republic of Texas) said almost the same thing so many years ago. He referenced his 10K member army of those revolutionaries that were coming coming to force his views on the people of Texas. I will see if I can find that stuff and some of the correspondence he produced. He believed that Texans would follow a crazy out-of-stater on a path to a life sentence in prison, he thought he could convince us to join him by force and threats. Didn't work out well for him even though a few of his points had some truth to them. There is a lesson to be learned there.

I will not argue that it might not come to that end but I will argue that the time had better be right and you better not misread the will of the majority when you embark on that violent journey because the result will be a short war with no good results, if you are wrong. I prefer to hope that infringement can be stopped in the short run and reversed in the long run by educating voters and reversing the creeping socialist brainwashing of our youth. I don't pretend that this is the answer, it is just my preferred vision of what is best for the Country.

ETA:
Personally I'd rather see a convention of states attempted first.
That might be the answer and I am glad to see that you agree that majority rule does exist in the words in the Constitution. "

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Ghost1958 replied to the thread Jeremy Kettler case challenge @ SCOTUS.
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Quote Originally Posted by BMcPhe44 View Post
I forgot again that your opinion qualifies as the supreme law of the land, however there are many who disagree with you. Heller was the first Supreme Court case to decide whether the Second Amendment protects an individual right to keep and bear arms for self-defense. So I guess you need to call the SCOTUS and tell them we don't have that right because the 2nd did not give us that right.

I also did not realize that it means nothing to add or delete Amendments to the COTUS, so we (rather you) probably need to give them a call and let them know so they won't waste anymore time.

The COTUS outlines how majority rule works and if you don't support that particular part, you don't support the COTUS as written. Are you a revisionist?

Simply put, if 3/4 of the states approve, the supreme law of the land can be changed and while you may deny that as majority rule most people understand that it is. Hard to achieve but majority rule non-the-less.

The part in bold. If you are not doing what this guy is doing, you are just another thumb twiddler yourself, so join the club. We all want to change the direction, but as of now there are far more thumb twiddlers than there are people who will violate the law and put their lives and possessions on the line like this guy did. I agree that there are a heck of a lot of people who get online and encourage others to step up and do this while they twiddle their thumbs and watch to see if it happens (I call them twiddlers anonymous). I prefer the hearts and minds approach while I twiddle but I do admire those who fight in a reasonable and rational method by doing what this guy did, and I may get to that same level of sacrifice someday, but that time is not now for me.

The 2A factually and even by SCOTUS own words long before Heller did NOT grant the RTKABA.
The RTKABA is a preexisting right that by SCOTUS own words "in no way depends on the 2A for its existence ".

The NFA could have been derailed by those living before we were born. Except for OLe Vet 9f course lol.
But it wasn't. Due to gun owners of that period doing squat to stop it. Even the NRA supported it.
Liberty traded for false security.

As far as breaking the law to go to a federal court to undue a federal law, if there was the slightest chance of winning I'm perfectly willing if some deep pockets funded that ride.
However SCOTUS and most of the federal judicial system is corrupted to the point weakening a federal gun law is NOT going to happen. So in reality there is no point until a convention of states pulls the rug out from under the fed.

Simple as that.

I admire the man trying to undue THE NFA through SOTUS, but that route is a almost sure loser. "

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Quote Originally Posted by Sporadic View Post
When I started riding (1970) i complained about the rising cost of helmets. I've never forgotten the reply from an experineced rider ... "If you got a $35 head ... buy $35 helmet".
Funny thing is, you can kinda go wrong in both directions. One cycle rag did some testing a while back and they found that one of the cheaper helmets actually protected your head better than the $500 helmets, but only at low speeds. If you only puttered around city streets, it was actually the better helmet than a Snell approved lid. However, the Snell helmet did much better at high speeds - pick your poison. At a certain point you can find yourself pay a whole lot for graphics or something else you don't need. "

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Stumpkiller replied to the thread Jerry Miculek versus Bump Stock.
" Never saw the point myself. But I also sold my Colt AR-15 around 1982 for the same reason. ;-)

Fun, but just for shooting a lot of $ downrange.

But then I also sold my motorcycle because it had more of an on/off switch than a throttle. I needed to slow down. "

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BMcPhe44 replied to the thread Jeremy Kettler case challenge @ SCOTUS.
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Quote Originally Posted by Ghost1958 View Post
All due respect your whole line of reasoning is wrong in your first paragraph.

We are not defending the RTKABA.
That has already been taken while too many gun owners twiddled their thumbs and intoned "oh my, that's just the way it is. Nothing we can do".

Long before we were born.

Be assured what gun owners who will are doing is fighting to take the RTKABA back from tyrants and criminals violating the Supreme law of the land.

2A did not grant the RTKABA. So changing amendments means nothing.

The day we accept majority rule over individual liberty , is the day we cease to be the free nation the founders fought to birth. It'll be the day we are no different than China or North Korea.
I forgot again that your opinion qualifies as the supreme law of the land, however there are many who disagree with you. Heller was the first Supreme Court case to decide whether the Second Amendment protects an individual right to keep and bear arms for self-defense. So I guess you need to call the SCOTUS and tell them we don't have that right because the 2nd did not give us that right.

I also did not realize that it means nothing to add or delete Amendments to the COTUS, so we (rather you) probably need to give them a call and let them know so they won't waste anymore time.

The COTUS outlines how majority rule works and if you don't support that particular part, you don't support the COTUS as written. Are you a revisionist?

Simply put, if 3/4 of the states approve, the supreme law of the land can be changed and while you may deny that as majority rule most people understand that it is. Hard to achieve but majority rule non-the-less.

The part in bold. If you are not doing what this guy is doing, you are just another thumb twiddler yourself, so join the club. We all want to change the direction, but as of now there are far more thumb twiddlers than there are people who will violate the law and put their lives and possessions on the line like this guy did. I agree that there are a heck of a lot of people who get online and encourage others to step up and do this while they twiddle their thumbs and watch to see if it happens (I call them twiddlers anonymous). I prefer the hearts and minds approach while I twiddle but I do admire those who fight in a reasonable and rational method by doing what this guy did, and I may get to that same level of sacrifice someday, but that time is not now for me. "

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GRCarry replied to the thread Jerry Miculek versus Bump Stock.
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Quote Originally Posted by OldVet View Post
I think Jerry would agree on banning bump stocks as a worthless piece of junk.
I think that he believes that if you want to spend your money on a worthless piece of junk, you should be able to and not be banned. He'll even stop at the range to laugh at you. "

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OldVet replied to the thread Jerry Miculek versus Bump Stock.
" I think Jerry would agree on banning bump stocks as a worthless piece of junk. "

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" This is an update on my repurposed birdshot to slug shotshells. Santa brought me a chronograph this Xmas and I finally had a chance today to clock my low recoil slugs, the results to me were very satisfying. Original birdshot numbers on the box were 1290fps my slugs, Lee 7/8 oz. slugs out of a 18.5 inch barrel, were clocking in at an average of 1270fps. Accuracy was pretty good as well 4 inch clays at 25yrds once the ghost ring sights were dialed in were easy. Not bad for a converted birdshot to slug shot that costs about 25 cents per shotshell. Easy on the wallet easy on the shoulder and at that speed I'm thinking Hard on the target especially at hallways distance. "

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Ghost1958 replied to the thread Jeremy Kettler case challenge @ SCOTUS.
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Quote Originally Posted by BMcPhe44 View Post
Of course there are violations of the NFA just as there are thousands of violations of all laws, both good and bad, and there are people arrested everyday for violating of the NFA. What does that prove? Laws violated in secret do nothing to get the bad laws rescinded. The people who break these laws should do what this guy has done and post it on the internet, send a video to LE. If they don't do that they are doing nothing to further the fight against more encroachment. People who keep their full autos buried and sneak them out at night to clean them are no more committed to the 2nd Amendment than those who grudgingly follow the law while speaking against it, giving money to organizations to fight it, convincing friends and family that it is unConstitutional. Those who buy the tax stamp and enjoy the silencer within the law are no less pro-gun than those break the law in secret, unless they actively support the law to begin with.

The guy in this article has gone the extra step, he has put his freedom and property on the line to demonstrate that the law is unConstitutional. Those hiding in the shadows breaking the law and those complying with the law, have not taken the step he took or the step the Founders took when they signed the Declaration, and until a majority of Americans are willing to do that we will continue down this road.
If you check the NFA on the ATF website, you would notice it was already declared unconstitutional once before.
The gov the modified it with another unconstititonal act with a friendlier court.

I'm all for this man trying to get his case to SCOTUS. But he will lose. Not because he is wrong but because they are corrupt.

You see things the way you describe in your post because you believe polls. And that there is a snowballs chance a court will undermine the power the fed has stolen.

There isn't. So millions live their lives exercising their God Given rights until some paid merc attempts to remove one of them.
Then they deal with it letting the chips fall where they will

Nothing will change by vote or courts. We are way past that point.
We allowed the RTKABA to be stolen by gov tyrants intent on disarmament.
But. When that attempt is made its highly likely the tyrants will find they face a much better equipped foe than they ever imagined.

Personally I'd rather see a convention of states attempted first. "

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Nakyak replied to the thread Jeremy Kettler case challenge @ SCOTUS.
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Quote Originally Posted by BMcPhe44 View Post
Of course there are violations of the NFA just as there are thousands of violations of all laws, both good and bad, and there are people arrested everyday for violating of the NFA. What does that prove? Laws violated in secret do nothing to get the bad laws rescinded. The people who break these laws should do what this guy has done and post it on the internet, send a video to LE. If they don't do that they are doing nothing to further the fight against more encroachment. People who keep their full autos buried and sneak them out at night to clean them are no more committed to the 2nd Amendment than those who grudgingly follow the law while speaking against it, giving money to organizations to fight it, convincing friends and family that it is unConstitutional. Those who buy the tax stamp and enjoy the silencer within the law are no less pro-gun than those break the law in secret, unless they actively support the law to begin with.

The guy in this article has gone the extra step, he has put his freedom and property on the line to demonstrate that the law is unConstitutional. Those hiding in the shadows breaking the law and those complying with the law, have not taken the step he took or the step the Founders took when they signed the Declaration, and until a majority of Americans are willing to do that we will continue down this road.
The problem is, these types of cases cost waaay more money than the average person could even contemplate spending. The GOA has stepped in to help his particular person, or I doubt he could keep fighting. "

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Ghost1958 replied to the thread Arizona police body cam shows boy, 14, fleeing before being shot by cop.
" When I was 4, I'd never seen a police officer outside of town. Never out here.

Keeping in mind regional differences, and being very rural even in the two small towns in the county, if a police officer had shot a 14 yr old in the back back in my childhood ,that officer wouldnt have lasted the night. And there wouldn't have been any other leos trying to protect him..
That said that was 45 yrs ago when at least here some things werent tolerated as they are now.

Even now a local officer shooting a kid in the back locally here has a LOT of explaining to do. "

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BMcPhe44 replied to the thread Jeremy Kettler case challenge @ SCOTUS.
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Quote Originally Posted by Ghost1958 View Post
All due respect , you are not that naive are you?

You honestly believe the NFA is not ignored 100s of times a day across this nation at minimum?

Of course nobody is going to post it on the internet.
Of course there are violations of the NFA just as there are thousands of violations of all laws, both good and bad, and there are people arrested everyday for violating of the NFA. What does that prove? Laws violated in secret do nothing to get the bad laws rescinded. The people who break these laws should do what this guy has done and post it on the internet, send a video to LE. If they don't do that they are doing nothing to further the fight against more encroachment. People who keep their full autos buried and sneak them out at night to clean them are no more committed to the 2nd Amendment than those who grudgingly follow the law while speaking against it, giving money to organizations to fight it, convincing friends and family that it is unConstitutional. Those who buy the tax stamp and enjoy the silencer within the law are no less pro-gun than those break the law in secret, unless they actively support the law to begin with.

The guy in this article has gone the extra step, he has put his freedom and property on the line to demonstrate that the law is unConstitutional. Those hiding in the shadows breaking the law and those complying with the law, have not taken the step he took or the step the Founders took when they signed the Declaration, and until a majority of Americans are willing to do that we will continue down this road. "

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Stumpkiller replied to the thread Arizona police body cam shows boy, 14, fleeing before being shot by cop.
" When I was four I knew that if a police officer yelled "Stop" I would stop. If I had a toy gun I would have dropped it.

Even the Westerns taught that to kids.

But then, we were taught the police were the good guys. And stealing was wrong. Go figure. "

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nlyric replied to the thread Jeremy Kettler case challenge @ SCOTUS.
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Quote Originally Posted by DogWalksWithMe View Post
It's been over 80 years since the gun control act of 1934.

When a law has been on the books for a very long time, the courts give weight to it being (presumptively) constitutional.

Every now and then the court does run counter to that presumption. I am hopeful, but that is not likely to be the outcome.

All the pot heads in the nation should be watching this case closely! Can a state make legal what the Fed has banned? If they understood the stakes, there might be a lot of public support to either repeal federal restrictions on firearms or at least establish that the Fed can't dictate to the states.
The case is all about the Constitutionality of the NFA. Comes down to this. If it is Constitutional the Fed has supremacy. It is absolutely not Constitutional so it is reserved to the States and the people... Good point on the common ground with the pot head... Feds have no constitutional authority to ban anything. They knew that all to well when they went through the trouble of 18A. Repealed by 21A in 1933. Very next year the NFA and they decided to "screw the amendment process". What a hassle abiding by the COTUS. Been ignoring that little insignificant procedure ever since. Just the way I see it. "

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"I didn't know that it would hurt so much, my boy...in this location this is where my son, a child of 14-years-old who doesn't know the difference of what's good and what's bad because he hasn't lived long enough," Arce’s parents said at the vigil.
He should have been taught the difference between right and wrong by at least 5 years old, before he even entered kindergarten. "

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Ghost1958 replied to the thread Motorcycle helmets - state law or not?.
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Quote Originally Posted by Dallas60 View Post
seatbelt and helmet laws were never about safety, or whether they would save your life in accident or not. they are nothing more than revenue generators. they are not about trying to control people's lives either by acting as "nanny state" and telling us what we can or can't do. they generate huge amounts of money. that is the bottom line, money.

they may dress the pig up in clothes and make-up, and sell it to the mass public that it's about safety, but it isn't. some people may think it's about the states passing laws to increase control over our personal choices in life, but it isn't. it's simply about generating income for those states that have passed them.
I'm not sure that makes the gov intrusion where it has no business any better lol. "

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Ghost1958 replied to the thread Arizona police body cam shows boy, 14, fleeing before being shot by cop.
" I'm not condoning the kids actions or commenting on his mother's parenting or lack of.

But. That said. I dont believe a parent can lose a child and not have regrets. If I'd done this or that could I have saved him etc. "

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OldVet replied to the thread Arizona police body cam shows boy, 14, fleeing before being shot by cop.
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Quote Originally Posted by Dallas60 View Post
I'm sorry the boy grew up with a parent that didn't take the time when he was younger to teach him the difference in wrong and right. it cost him his life if, you believe what the mother says. that is a huge tragedy. what she can't seem to see, is that because her failures as a parent, it cost her the life of her son.

what the boy did was wrong, without any doubts, but the greater crime here is the poor parenting by his mother. but sadly, she will never be prosecuted for it, and she now has to live with what has happened.
I seriously doubt she has any parental failure regrets. That would involve seeing one's self as failing. "

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DogWalksWithMe replied to the thread Arizona police body cam shows boy, 14, fleeing before being shot by cop.
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Quote Originally Posted by Ghost1958 View Post
Then that call means nothing.
Of course the officer, having shot a 14 yr old running away in the back, is going to say and make sure there is a gun or toy gun to cover his butt.

Much as van zant swore the boy he shot lunged at him with a knife when video showed plainly that did not occur.

I can't see the boy turning or a gun.
I wasn't there so I cannot say for sure.
But an officers call after shooting a teen in the back claiming he had a gun is worthless as far as knowing if there actually was one.
Wish there was more of the body cam footage.

Not sure who found the kid or where he was when he quit running. I don't see him laying in that alley. From the video, I could not even see that he was hit. He disappeared running.

I'll wait for more details before proposing what I can't see did not happen as presented. "

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DogWalksWithMe replied to the thread Jeremy Kettler case challenge @ SCOTUS.
" It's been over 80 years since the gun control act of 1934.

When a law has been on the books for a very long time, the courts give weight to it being (presumptively) constitutional.

Every now and then the court does run counter to that presumption. I am hopeful, but that is not likely to be the outcome.

All the pot heads in the nation should be watching this case closely! Can a state make legal what the Fed has banned? If they understood the stakes, there might be a lot of public support to either repeal federal restrictions on firearms or at least establish that the Fed can't dictate to the states. "

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Ghost1958 replied to the thread Arizona police body cam shows boy, 14, fleeing before being shot by cop.
" Then that call means nothing.
Of course the officer, having shot a 14 yr old running away in the back, is going to say and make sure there is a gun or toy gun to cover his butt.

Much as van zant swore the boy he shot lunged at him with a knife when video showed plainly that did not occur.

I can't see the boy turning or a gun.
I wasn't there so I cannot say for sure.
But an officers call after shooting a teen in the back claiming he had a gun is worthless as far as knowing if there actually was one. "

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DogWalksWithMe replied to the thread Jerry Miculek versus Bump Stock.
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Quote Originally Posted by GRCarry View Post
Well, that sure slowed him down. The gun grabbers will see this and demand that we all have bump stocks to slow down rate of fire.
Makes about as much sense as anything else the gun grabbers have said... Particularly those with no firearms experience. "

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Ghost1958 replied to the thread The right to keep and bear arms..
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Quote Originally Posted by Dallas60 View Post
as the old saying goes, be very careful of what you wish for, since you may get it. and I fear, in such a situation, we could end up with far worse a situation than the way things are right now. but what do I know? I'm probably not as smart as all of the rest of you guys here.

If one does not care that the very base documents founding this nation are in large part being ignored by gov and LE then one is probably comfortable with
gov permission to be armed .

The 4th A having been destroyed by a "drug war" and such travestys as no knock warrants, civil forfeiture without even being charged, communication mega gathering by gov etc.

However if one does care that this nation remain founded on the ideals of freedom and individual rights trumping majority rule, something has to be done. A convention of states wrests power from the Fed. And renders it helpless. Maybe not to even exist after a convention of states.

If nothing got changed, the actual forcing of a convention of states would put the fear of God into the fed. Make it realize it actually does exist and govern at the pleasure of the people.

There are two constitutional remedies laid out for Americans to deal with a non responsive gov.

Convention of states IMHO should be attempted first. "

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Quote Originally Posted by Ghost1958 View Post
Was his call in before or after the shooting?
Edited, had posted "before" but looked at the video again. Funny how memory changes after a short time...

Announcement over radio of shots fired and suspect with a gun was after the officer shot, but before he reached the suspect (who I can't even see at the end of the video). "

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Ghost1958 replied to the thread Jeremy Kettler case challenge @ SCOTUS.
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Quote Originally Posted by Dallas60 View Post
then maybe Ghost should learn to keep his big mouth shut, instead of making such grandiose statements. just my thoughts. take 'em or leave 'em.

All due respect , you are not that naive are you?

You honestly believe the NFA is not ignored 100s of times a day across this nation at minimum?

Of course nobody is going to post it on the internet. "

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Nakyak replied to the thread Jeremy Kettler case challenge @ SCOTUS.
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Quote Originally Posted by Dallas60 View Post
then maybe Ghost should learn to keep his big mouth shut, instead of making such grandiose statements. just my thoughts. take 'em or leave 'em.
Why? just because you are not willing to state you line in the sand on a public forum doesn't mean I don't think you have one. "

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Dallas60 replied to the thread Jeremy Kettler case challenge @ SCOTUS.
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Quote Originally Posted by Nakyak View Post
I would imagine most of those people don't want their business out there on the internet. Sorda like your line in the sand
then maybe Ghost should learn to keep his big mouth shut, instead of making such grandiose statements. just my thoughts. take 'em or leave 'em. "

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Ghost1958 replied to the thread Arizona police body cam shows boy, 14, fleeing before being shot by cop.
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Quote Originally Posted by DogWalksWithMe View Post
Didn't read this article (read another recently).

Watched and listened to the footage. Have two takeaways...

- One is the camera lens focal length. Everything looks much smaller/further away than it would in real life (yard fencing indicates much shorter distances)

- Officer, when he calls in, shows he is aware of the handgun carried by the thief

Was his call in before or after the shooting? "

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welder516 replied to the thread NM sheriffs prevented from carrying in state capitol.
" I dislike our state and a good bit of other handguns laws , I believe they are totally dishonest (State & Feds) They want to protect us , make laws about seat belts , helmets , business spot checks for fire x and any other control law for public safty .
Which is normally paid for by every citizen until we say "handgun" that is where the end of for our protection stops . I then have to depend on someone else to protect me like police .

Why tell me and mandate me to follow all these rules that take my 2A right from me , don't I have the right to protect me ? "

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Ghost1958 replied to the thread Jeremy Kettler case challenge @ SCOTUS.
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Quote Originally Posted by Dallas60 View Post
prove it Ghost, that there is massive non-compliance every day.

show me real proof and not just you making wild declarations on a gun board!
Watch the news. Read.
The NFA is ignored multiple times daily.

Now. You, and the paid mercenaries who attempt to enforce that unconstituional garbage would call them criminals just for that.

No wild accusations. Anybody who doesn't have their head in the sand knows every gun regulation is ignored by multiple people many times a day.

You really think a piece of paper with an unconstitutional law written on it stops anyone from doing what that illegal paper says they can't? "

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Quote Originally Posted by Dallas60 View Post
prove it Ghost, that there is massive non-compliance every day.

show me real proof and not just you making wild declarations on a gun board!
I would imagine most of those people don't want their business out there on the internet. Sorda like your line in the sand "

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Quote Originally Posted by RobertR View Post
The poster had the drinks before they posted. Everyone else needs drinks to understand the post. I think.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
LOL, I'M thinking maybe you haven't seen 🔨 s posts when he's drinking. Like reading the longest book of the Bible and when you get to the end, if you can manage getting to the end, trust me, you will actually understand what he is trying to teach us all. Always a profound lesson and message in brother 🔨 s posts... "

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Dallas60 replied to the thread Arizona police body cam shows boy, 14, fleeing before being shot by cop.
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Quote Originally Posted by OldVet View Post
If the kid didn't flee a breaking and entering, with a real-looking airsoft in his hand, he might be alive today for his mommy to finally get around to teaching him right from wrong.

My sympathy meter is low on this one.
I'm sorry the boy grew up with a parent that didn't take the time when he was younger to teach him the difference in wrong and right. it cost him his life if, you believe what the mother says. that is a huge tragedy. what she can't seem to see, is that because her failures as a parent, it cost her the life of her son.

what the boy did was wrong, without any doubts, but the greater crime here is the poor parenting by his mother. but sadly, she will never be prosecuted for it, and she now has to live with what has happened. "

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Dallas60 replied to the thread Jeremy Kettler case challenge @ SCOTUS.
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Quote Originally Posted by Ghost1958 View Post
Reality check for you.

There already is massive non compliance with the NFA. Every day.

It's just not stuck up on gun boards.
prove it Ghost, that there is massive non-compliance every day.

show me real proof and not just you making wild declarations on a gun board! "

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Quote Originally Posted by nlyric View Post
Sounds like someone needs a drink, or 2, or 3 or...... Otherwise very well said--- I think!!!!
The poster had the drinks before they posted. Everyone else needs drinks to understand the post. I think.


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Ghost1958 replied to the thread Jeremy Kettler case challenge @ SCOTUS.
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Quote Originally Posted by BMcPhe44 View Post
I agree with your points on this. I would love to think that the American public would step to the plate and do away with the NFA but that is not going to happen. Those who think that the majority does not rule, even in a Constitutional Republic such as ours, are sadly mistaken. The COTUS can be changed by a majority of voters in a majority of States and that is why denying that fact and failing to see the shift in public opinion is a critical flaw by those who seek to defend the RTKAB.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/1645/guns.aspx
Here are some numbers from the latest Gallup polling on the 2nd Amendment.
By 46% Americans want stricter gun laws compared to 8% who them less strict.
By 96% to 4% Americans favor UBCs on “all” gun sales.
By to 75% to 24% Americans favor a 30 day waiting period to purchase a gun.
By 70% to 29% Americans favor all privately owned guns be registered with police

This poll shows that a majority of Americans are conflicted, confused and deluded about not only what the laws should be but that they can be manipulated to give different opinions on any law simply by changing the wording of the law. The poll is only conclusive to one point and that is that the American public is open to the idea that the 2nd Amendment is subject to change by the government to make them safer, and to that end the they believe the NFA accomplishes that goal.

This man will lose in the long run and in the end (as we legally and illegally import more immigrants to America) we will wind up with a population that will be more than willing to delete the 2nd Amendment from the COTUS and quite OK with having their government eliminate those who dissent from their view.

Perhaps that won’t happen but that is certainly a “pragmatic” view given the state of mind of the American public as the poll seems to imply. I wish him success in his quest and greatly admire him for standing for the COTUS.
All due respect your whole line of reasoning is wrong in your first paragraph.

We are not defending the RTKABA.
That has already been taken while too many gun owners twiddled their thumbs and intoned "oh my, that's just the way it is. Nothing we can do".

Long before we were born.

Be assured what gun owners who will are doing is fighting to take the RTKABA back from tyrants and criminals violating the Supreme law of the land.

2A did not grant the RTKABA. So changing amendments means nothing.

The day we accept majority rule over individual liberty , is the day we cease to be the free nation the founders fought to birth. It'll be the day we are no different than China or North Korea. "

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Ghost1958 replied to the thread Jeremy Kettler case challenge @ SCOTUS.
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Quote Originally Posted by Dallas60 View Post
so the state of Kansas writes a law, then passes it, that is in clear violation of federal gun laws, and proper taxes are not paid, (which would be another crime of tax evasion.) and now they won't support or stand up for one of their residents that was arrested? IMO, that means he has about a snow-balls chance in hell of prevailing in the Supreme Court, or any court for that matter.

see, I knew this was going to happen quite a few years ago. when several states started passing laws, making marijuana legal in their states. I knew that at some point a gun case was going to come along to challenge federal gun laws at a state level. and guess what, here one is. on the marijuana thing, they sort of turn a blind eye since the federal government is getting some of the tax money from the sales of it and the income derived from it. but, guess what, on federal gun laws, not a chance!

the very few cases that have gone before the Supreme Court to challenge the NFA of 1934 have all lost the decision from the courts. I seriously suspect this one will be no different. and guess what? he's also now a convicted felon and now prohibited from legally owning or possessing any firearms.

the majority already agree the NFA of 1934 is a useless and pointless law and disagree with it. but we are also smart enough to know that challenging it is pointless, stupid, and that there isn't any chance it's going to ever change. so we just abide by it. one of two cases trying to buck the system isn't ever going to change things. the only thing that MIGHT change that law would be a huge massive number of non-compliance with the law. and guess what? that ain't going to happen!

Reality check for you.

There already is massive non compliance with the NFA. Every day.

It's just not stuck up on gun boards. "

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" If the kid didn't flee a breaking and entering, with a real-looking airsoft in his hand, he might be alive today for his mommy to finally get around to teaching him right from wrong.

My sympathy meter is low on this one. "

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The one thing I did not like was it required 3-D glasses, which always give me a slight headache, and at times didn't work that well.

It did give an honest view from pre- to post-war soldiering from the British standpoint. What surprised me is how they returned home to a very uncaring public--shades of Vietnam. It also showed how well surrendering German soldiers were treated and the essential lack of animosity between enemies.

Overall, it's worth seeing if one has an inclination for WWI history. "

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Dallas60 replied to the thread The right to keep and bear arms..
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Quote Originally Posted by Ghost1958 View Post
Actually it's 7 states needed to force a CONVENTION OF STATES, not 6 . I was off by one state.

What your non magical 4 number is is anybody's guess as it has nothing to do with a convention of states.
As to knowing where you draw your line in the sand is, your correct. I suppose I have no dependable source to go on as I have only your own words in our past discussions concerning your "line in the sand", is.

We have lost the RTKABA, and honestly several other inalienable rights due to corruption in the fed gov.

The founding fathers gave us 2 options to correct an unresponsive and corrupt gov.

A convention of states is the next peaceful option left to gain control of our our of control gov.

No amendment can ratify without 38 states ratifying it. So few would be actually passed.
But the Fed stranglehold on power would be broken.

SCOTUS will never rein the fed gov in to its constitutional limits. Voting obviously does not work to do so.

Question is do we as a people still have what is needed to use the remedies our founding fathers provided? Or will we let the republic ,bought by blood and given to us, slip away while we tend "more important" personal issues? Leaving our children to fight the battle we were to selfish too ourselves.
as the old saying goes, be very careful of what you wish for, since you may get it. and I fear, in such a situation, we could end up with far worse a situation than the way things are right now. but what do I know? I'm probably not as smart as all of the rest of you guys here. "

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Quote Originally Posted by Sempertodd View Post
Just be clear, "the only rights you have to loose are the ones you give up, not being involved is giving the "other side" the power they need".
Implied consent!!! "

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Quote Originally Posted by Dallas60 View Post
a convention of states! yep, seems like a real good way to end up way worse than we are right now. but what do I know. and you might look a bit deeper on your magical only 6 away. to get it ratified would still require another 4 states. good luck with that.

https://www.cbpp.org/research/states...t-amendment-or

you know where my line in the sand is? Ghost, you haven't the first clue where my line is! nice try, but no cigar.

Actually it's 7 states needed to force a CONVENTION OF STATES, not 6 . I was off by one state.

What your non magical 4 number is is anybody's guess as it has nothing to do with a convention of states.
As to knowing where you draw your line in the sand is, your correct. I have only your own words in our past discussions concerning where your "line in the sand", is.
If you deem that an unreliable source who am I to argue.

We have lost the RTKABA, and honestly several other inalienable rights due to corruption in the fed gov, the courts and LE.

The founding fathers gave us 2 options to correct an unresponsive and corrupt gov.

A convention of states is the next peaceful option left to gain control of our our of control gov.

No amendment can ratify without 38 states ratifying it. So few would be actually passed.
But the Fed stranglehold on power would be broken.

SCOTUS will never rein the fed gov in to its constitutional limits. Voting obviously does not work to do so.

Question is do we as a people still have what is needed to use the remedies our founding fathers provided? Or will we let the republic ,bought by blood and given to us, slip away while we tend "more important" personal issues? Leaving our children to fight the battle we were to selfish too ourselves. "

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Quote Originally Posted by Aceoky View Post
These type "polls" are certainly not accurate and often worded to get "x" response, NO way do such a vast majority want UBC on transfer of a gun or guns to your grandchild or child (for only one example) also a great many do not understand what IS in place ( some think you can actually order machine guns online shipped directly to your door) LOL

IOW just as Hillary would win by a landslide (according to such polls) well that is how accurate most polls of this nature are.
I'll agree that polls are not always accurate and yes, they can be skewed to get the desired results the pollster wants.

but, they can also be indicators of what people are thinking.

and even among gun owners, there is not any clear consensus about guns. you can't get them united on fully automatics, or suppressors or bumpfire stocks or others. "

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Polite wording is not wasted, because I suspect that demanding things and/or using nasty language result in no tick mark on either side of those tally sheets. My guess, of course, but I know what I would do if I were one of the aides. "

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Watched and listened to the footage. Have two takeaways...

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- Officer, when he calls in, shows he is aware of the handgun carried by the thief "

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" These type "polls" are certainly not accurate and often worded to get "x" response, NO way do such a vast majority want UBC on transfer of a gun or guns to your grandchild or child (for only one example) also a great many do not understand what IS in place ( some think you can actually order machine guns online shipped directly to your door) LOL

IOW just as Hillary would win by a landslide (according to such polls) well that is how accurate most polls of this nature are. "

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