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Aceoky replied to the thread Felon and GCA 1968: Actress cries as she pleads guilty in college admissions scandal.
" Why would it be a felony to "contribute" to a school? Sure you want your child admitted, you "go the extra mile", and yet some select celebs are being charged with felonies, still you say it's a "claim" and "not substantiated"?????????

Folks are free to believe & think as they wish, no one can know all the laws, (by design) so you cannot know you've never committed such & such or whatever laws . It seems that no one knows how many federal laws there are in fact! Then there is the reality that the Feds can (and have) trumped up charges or abused their power, while finding a felony to charge someone with. I'm not sure why some folks do not see the issues and problems with this or the far too many Fed Felony charges that exist . OR why that number has grown by leaps & bounds in recent times.

Thinking stuff wrongly is one thing, being punished for it quite another in a Country where RIGHTS are strictly protected (well they're supposed to be and used to be at least) and being punished by stealing other's Rights long/far after the time is served is NOT within the COTUS no matter how many folks seem to like the illegal concept. "

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Aceoky replied to the thread Felon and GCA 1968: Actress cries as she pleads guilty in college admissions scandal.
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Quote Originally Posted by GRCarry View Post
I agree with those things. But, I keep seeing comments that once one is out of jail/prison that all rights should be fully reinstated and that no more restrictions can be allowed. I believe that there can be punishments other than prison or jail.
Selective reading perhaps?

What IS being said (over & over again) is RIGHTS and restrictions are polar opposites, you are born with certain rights, they're NOT to be taken away , .Gov had NO authority to do so to any free person walking the streets - period. Tyranny has meaning, rights are RIGHTS, the interesting thing (to me) is that some are totally ignoring the OP and stuck on violent crimes etc. etc. etc. instead of the tens of thousands of other felonies that illegally attempt to steal Rights from freed persons.

Where does one stand on other's rights? Only when something affects yourselves? Guess what many here unknowingly have probably committed some felony(ies) nothing violent of course or they'd know. Think about that "

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Aceoky replied to the thread Felon and GCA 1968: Actress cries as she pleads guilty in college admissions scandal.
" Remind me again which of the above are RIGHTS protected by the BOR & COTUS??????

Should a pedophile be getting out at all? Or a murderer, rapist? IF they Are in fact released, time served that is IT.....and in fact as I explained several time has been for a very , very long time. The fact some decided that other's rights are "lost" (which is asinine on it's very face) is quite recent and not allowed per the COTUS & BOR.

I suppose some folks simply have trouble understanding Shall NOT be infringed, confuse rights with privileges OR view others as "less than themselves" , that doesn't make it right. The BOR are pre-existing long before the USA or any other country, WE (the founders to be precise) just made sure to codify these rights within the BOR & COTUS "

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Aceoky replied to the thread Felon and GCA 1968: Actress cries as she pleads guilty in college admissions scandal.
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Quote Originally Posted by GRCarry View Post
Apparently, via this discussion, the only penalty allowed for criminal acts is prison. So that, when one is out of prison, no other penalty may be assessed. Why is that?
Nope not at all, there is the death penalty in several states and it's even used; however a trial happens, a sentence is handed down- that is that, in fact that was the way it's has been for a very long time; not so long ago some decided that OTHER'S rights were not "so important" and violated the COTUS and quite clearly.......

That is why (the short version) "

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Aceoky replied to the thread What is your litmus test for the RTKBA's?.
" Not only was the "bump stock ban" totally illegal on it's very face, it was made far worse by forcing those who would comply to destroy or "turn them in" for $0 , another bit of illegality some claim "no big deal", oh but it IS a huge deal, .Gov by it's very nature NEEDS to be restrained and very limited, more and more laws, rules & regulations on the folks who are paying the bills is not and cannot be spun to be good things. Freedom involves risks , some don't like that reality, they prefer feel good laws & rules that in reality punish the law abiding and never the real problem folks.

Take a close look at the "GFSZA" and school shootings before and after it's passage (and remember it lost it's first time in court as it was not legal on it's face) Everyone who understand weapons at all Should see the humor in the mag limits some states have imposed , reloading smaller mags is not "rocket surgery" , but again it makes some folks feel good, while doing nothing worthwhile. The list is huge.

On topic, ANY regulations on arms is illegal, shall not be infringed is quite clear - words have meanings, that is the whole point of law in a Constitutional Republic . "

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Aceoky replied to the thread Felon and GCA 1968: Actress cries as she pleads guilty in college admissions scandal.
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"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
The second amendment clearly limits the .Gov (and the states) simply put "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" is clear enough even to those who try to pretend it doesn't say what it indeed says. Does one lose their citizenship once convicted of a crime? Show me ANYWHERE the COTUS says once freed ANY US Gov (state or Fed) has the authority to strip any of the BOR from them.....

You're stuck (you brought up the broken record thing) on violent criminals/felons and continue to ignore thousands of felonies that don't fit "your criteria" yet they get the same illegal treatment including the female in the OP .

You say because it's happening now that is proof of it being legal, to the contrary many "laws" have been overturned and made null & void upon rulings they were NOT constitutional (so they NEVER were laws despite them being used and abused prior) It is really simple , IF they get out of prison they have their rights , IF kept inside they do not have them all , that IS the way it always has been until very, very recently In respect to our country's age. Some folks want stupid laws that can't work so THEY FEEL Better/good ; and without regard to other's actual Rights (they're not Privileges after all to be granted and taken at will) "

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Aceoky replied to the thread Felon and GCA 1968: Actress cries as she pleads guilty in college admissions scandal.
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I don't know where you got that I am fine with releasing them unless you are misconstruing the post.
I'll try again and type slower (LOL) They ARE being released, IF they're not "safe" to be let out leave 'em in Or execute them, otherwise they have the right to be armed up until they commit another crime (or don't) they ARE armed despite those who "feel good" about some written words saying they cannot be armed. And also yet again you're speaking of the "worst of the worst" while ignoring the thousands of felonies that are not murder, rape child molestation .......

No one once free should lose the RIGHT to protect their own families or themselves....keep 'em inside, execute them or stop overstepping the "highest law of the land"!

They were tried, convicted, served their time that was the due process, the rest is illegal on it's very face and serves no purpose whatsoever other than another charge (often plea bargained away ) "

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Aceoky replied to the thread Felon and GCA 1968: Actress cries as she pleads guilty in college admissions scandal.
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Quote Originally Posted by BMcPhe44 View Post
Originally Posted by Ghost1958

The big question is,why some gun owners so strongly try to argue the anti gunners side.

The big question is why some gun owners argue the violent criminal scumbag's side.
1. No one- other than you singled out Violent felons
2. once your time is served IT IS Served- fairly simple concept, free folks have rights - always have always will and NO law(s) will change the reality ; IF you really think convicted felons (even violent ones) are not armed you fooling yourself
3.You seem to be saying once a scumbag always one, but seem to be Fine & Dandy in releasing them on the public?

Regardless that it's being done the .Gov has NO authority to violate the 2nd- PERIOD not for any free person prior jail time or not. when the .Gov violates the very laws meant to RESTRAIN THEM & folks seem to be fine with that- well that IS a very serious problem in and of itself in my humble view. "

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Aceoky replied to the thread Felon and GCA 1968: Actress cries as she pleads guilty in college admissions scandal.
" As I'm sure you're well aware the Founders made several statements about no free man shall be denied the right to bear arms.......I'm not falling for the bait, much less "hook line and sinker".....folks locked up are NOT free (that would be the entire point of locking them up) I have no issue of WHILE locked up they're denied rights of travel and RTKABA.....once they're set free , they should have ALL their rights (which the .gov doesn't grant anyway, they simply recognize them when they have to do so it seems) IF they're not folks who can be trusted back in society then DO not release them; making more laws has resulted in the overcrowding (which those making BIG $$$ from this Love ) most of our country's past there was no "convicted felon with a gun" charge.....wonder HOW we survived treating free folks exactly like they're free for so very long?

Again folks should not ignore the many lessons Prohibition has clearly taught us. "

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Aceoky replied to the thread Felon and GCA 1968: Actress cries as she pleads guilty in college admissions scandal.
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Quote Originally Posted by jmf552 View Post
COTUS and the BOR don't say that. "Prisoner of the people" is not a constitutional or legal term.

You have argued that if 2A doesn't say the RTKABA can be restricted, then any restriction in unconstitutional. You can try to have it both ways, but it doesn't work. Either the government has the power to restrict the RTKABA in some circumstances, or it doesn't.
I think free man(or woman) stands for itself, obviously one locked up is not free; once they're not longer locked up they should have all the same rights as any free person has; they paid their sentence as handed down and once let out in the public they're again free . It is a non starter to try to argue that folks locked up could possibly retain the rights of a free man/woman. It's actually absurd , almost as absurd as thinking "laws on the books" will keep folks from having guns , to protect themselves etc.

Prohibition proved some valid points that still today those who should know better choose to ignore. "

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Aceoky replied to the thread Felon and GCA 1968: Actress cries as she pleads guilty in college admissions scandal.
" People really NEED to understand that freedom is not "safe" in and of itself, you must take responsibility for your actions and understand real risks are out there, NO amount of laws can change this, it's simply a matter of do you Really want to be free and live under the illusion of "safety" due to stupid laws that do not work... "

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