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DogWalksWithMe replied to the thread Felon and GCA 1968: Actress cries as she pleads guilty in college admissions scandal.
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Quote Originally Posted by Nakyak View Post
What part of the fifth specifically states 2A rights are voided?
... nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law... "

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DogWalksWithMe replied to the thread Felon and GCA 1968: Actress cries as she pleads guilty in college admissions scandal.
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Quote Originally Posted by Ghost1958 View Post
Those statutes are contrary to the 2a clearly.
Have you read the 5th? "

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DogWalksWithMe replied to the thread Felon and GCA 1968: Actress cries as she pleads guilty in college admissions scandal.
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Quote Originally Posted by ccw9mm View Post
I don't think the legitimate dividing line is incarceration.

I think it's the sentencing.

IF the sentence specified via the infraction committed and conviction indicates X term or Y labor or Z fine, that ought to be fully justified. If it's done in a public speedy trial before the ostensibly independent judiciary, and assuming it's specified in the statutes as to what infraction will yield what penalties.
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And statutes do specify loss of firearms rights for life for felonies, unless reinstated through and per each state's process. And while I do not know of anywhere this is codified, I have heard many times that ignorance of the law is no excuse. "

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DogWalksWithMe replied to the thread Felon and GCA 1968: Actress cries as she pleads guilty in college admissions scandal.
" I find it interesting that this discussion has so much focus on prison, and rights restoration after prison, considering prison was not a common punishment at the time this nation was founded.

See: https://scholarlycommons.law.northwe...2&context=jclc


As late as the Act of 1788 for "punishing Treasons and Felonies, and for the better regulating of proceedings in cases of Felony," there were sixteen capital crimes enumerated on the statute books-treason, murder, rape, buggery, burglary, robbery of a church, breaking and entry, robbery of person, robbery and intimidation in dwelling houses, arson, malicious maiming, forgery, counterfeiting, theft of chose in action, second offense for other felonies, and aiding and abetting any of the above crimes.

During the earlier colonial period there has been a number of other crimes punishable by the death penalty, such as, for example, heresy, perjury, smiting of a parent, adultery of married persons, piracy and flight from servitude.

Where the death penalty was not inflicted, corporal punishment of another and less severe type was employed. The stocks, pillory, whipping, branding and the ducking-stool were the normal methods used for imposing punishment. For the lesser offenses, fines were prescribed, with an alternate sentence of corporal punishment if the fine was not paid. Imprisonment was rarely employed as a method of punishment.


So now we use prison but did not then, and already had laws to add increase penalties for repeat offenses. Nowhere in the constitution does the government have the power to imprison citizens, unless you find it in interpretation of the 5th. That is where I find it. By that measure, it is also where we can find corporal punishment such as maiming, branding, etc. Those were common at the founding.

The First says "Congress shall make no law." The second says "shall not be infringed." But as we dig deeper, we find that phrase in the 5th "nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law." That is there for crimes. Crimes can result in loss of rights. "

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DogWalksWithMe replied to the thread Strange things at the Bear Cave.
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Quote Originally Posted by ccw9mm View Post
List of birds of Washington state -- Hawks, kites and eagles

Given the apparent size and coloring, I'm guessing it's a juvenile. According to the coloring, I'm thinking most likely one of these (from that list): Swainson's hawk; Broad-winged hawk; Cooper's hawk; or Sharp-shinned hawk.

Only a guess.
Hudson Hawk?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8KvM3vZo0w "

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Quote Originally Posted by OldVet View Post
I should have sent a birthday card...
You have a list for that?

https://memegenerator.net/img/instan...the-family.jpg "

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DogWalksWithMe replied to the thread wasit on this forum the video of the people being pulled apart?.
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Quote Originally Posted by higgy baby View Post
It was actually a magic trick...... looked real though.
Oh well.....I'll eventually find it.
Well, that would be different, and likely OK here. Sounded like an ISIS video or something like it from the subject. I'll go away and be quiet now. "

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DogWalksWithMe replied to the thread wasit on this forum the video of the people being pulled apart?.
" If I interpret the thread subject correctly, such a video would be counter to the family-friendly standard of this forum's rules.

If my interpretation of the thread subject is correct, and someone here has a link to the video somewhere else on the Internet, I suggest a PM to the OP rather than posting the requested link in this thread. "

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DogWalksWithMe replied to the thread Felon and GCA 1968: Actress cries as she pleads guilty in college admissions scandal.
" The 2nd is binding on the federal government, as is the 5th.

The 14th echoes the 5th as binding on the states, and by interpretation also binds the 2nd and all other rights on the states. "

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DogWalksWithMe replied to the thread Political MEME & Joke Thread.
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Quote Originally Posted by SatCong View Post
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DogWalksWithMe replied to the thread Felon and GCA 1968: Actress cries as she pleads guilty in college admissions scandal.
" Well, I do question what governmental or public interest is served by stripping the RKBA from the mom who is the subject of this thread. Her offense was not violent.

But incarceration is not the only punishment available to the people for a criminal act. We have fines, probation, parole after incarceration, diversion into various programs in lieu of prison, mandatory community service, restitution, and other options. So I can not hold release from incarceration as some magical point where a criminal has completely served "the" penalty.

Lifetime curtailment of rights is a part of the penalty our society can and does impose on criminals. As I just noted, I can question it in this case... But when she does complete any incarceration, pays any penalties imposed, completes any requirements of parole or probation, she can then apply to have her rights restored.

Not many apply for restoration, and not many applications are successful. The mom in this case might succeed if she does apply.

I do agree restricting the 2nd for known felons is not likely to result in much reduced crime in terms of felons actually not procuring weapons, all it can do is mandate longer sentences the next time they get caught. Instead of waiting for a third strike, punish longer at the second strike. That does serve the public interest. "

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DogWalksWithMe replied to the thread Fairness Logic.
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Quote Originally Posted by nedrgr21 View Post
just heard a story about ACT/SAT company thinking about weighting scores according to parents' income, zipcode, etc. More socialist bull excrement.
Already in beta, about to go national.

From what I read, is is a separate score from what the student earns on the test.

This separate score uses zip code, average earnings in that area, average crime, high school graduation rates, race, sex, and other factors.

This score is being used as part of applicant evaluation (along with the essay, extracurricular activities, transcripts, and other information in the application).

The reason for this score is that blacks and hispanics are less likely to be accepted into college compared to whites, and asians are more likely to be accepted than whites.

While not intended as a quota system, it is intended to provide context for evaluating an SAT/ACT score. It makes the absolute test score number less important. The idea is that an inner-city kid earning 1,400 on the SAT might be a more impressive showing than a rich kid from a private school with 1,500 points. "

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DogWalksWithMe replied to the thread Felon and GCA 1968: Actress cries as she pleads guilty in college admissions scandal.
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Quote Originally Posted by ccw9mm View Post
8A: "Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted."
And that provides a space for the courts to intervene in legislation and application of the laws.

Enumerated rights such as the 1st and 2nd can not be infringed against the entire population.

But criminal's rights can be impacted with due process.

But not to a degree which does not fit the crime or standards of human decency.

Some examples:

- California -- that glittering bastion of progressive thinking -- decided some years ago that prison is for punishment, not rehabilitation; There is no presumption of rehabilitation after a sentence is served. California also had enough of recidivism and led the way with a three strikes law. Under a principal of full restoration upon release, each crime should be considered individually. But since some criminals clearly do not learn, why should we forget?

- New York State created an education program for prisoners to learn to cut hair; Upon release, the "graduates" found out the state would not issue them a professional license to practice this craft since the had a conviction on record. Maybe the legislature wanted them to move elsewhere?

- Domestic violence is a misdemeanor. We can argue firearms rights should not be stripped at the misdemeanor level, but the easy fix for this is to make it a felony.

- And looking at Kentucky, no CCDW for anyone behind more than a year's worth of child support. Clearly an encroachment on the right to carry, but hard to argue in favor of the deadbeat.

It is up to the courts to determine if a punishment is unconstitutional as excessive, or cruel and unusual. The constitution lays out our rights as law-abiding citizens, has provisions for those among us that are not, and places a general limit on those provisions. "

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DogWalksWithMe replied to the thread Felon and GCA 1968: Actress cries as she pleads guilty in college admissions scandal.
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Quote Originally Posted by ccw9mm View Post
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Nothing I know of allows the BOR's protections to be ditched or disregarded. No matter how many people say so.

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The 5th for the Fed, and the 14th for the states, specifically allows abridgment with due process. "

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DogWalksWithMe replied to the thread Got help with program to read emails with .msg extensions.
" Are there any .msg files on that computer you care about? I'm thinking maybe write a DOS batch job to change them all back to .eml.

But first, another thought is to try simply opening the .msg files from within Thunderbird (File -> Open).

If they can be opened from within Thunderbird, then maybe double-click on one and choose Thunderbird as the application to open them with.

Big question in my mind is if the update also edited each of the files to actually change them into .msg files so they are no longer .eml files. "

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DogWalksWithMe replied to the thread Smolett - justice served?.
" I did laugh, just not out loud. Thanks FDB for posting that. "

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DogWalksWithMe replied to the thread Felon and GCA 1968: Actress cries as she pleads guilty in college admissions scandal.
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Quote Originally Posted by jmf552 View Post
Glad you brought that up. Due process helps make my argument. Why would we have due process in the BOR if we were not at the same time granting the central government the ability to pass laws and enforce them? Clearly, COTUS enumerated that authority in Articles 1-3 and limited, but did not eliminate that authority with 4A and 5A.
Looking back, I see that it does.

As I see it, we as a society and a nation have decided extended incarceration is too expensive to be sustainable, so we shorten the time in prison and extend the punishment long beyond incarceration.

Voting rights are clearly up for curtailment in the COTUS, mostly it is an argument at what level of crime does curtailment apply. So is association (do not contact or go within a certain distance of victims, ever).

Parole and probation (early release or agreement to behave in lieu of additional time) carry conditions which may -- within due process -- limit access to tools which can harm law abiding citizens. The subject of incarceration does have the right to refuse these conditions and serve the full sentence instead.

So on release from prison and all conditions of parole or probation, is the felon really completely defenseless? Just because the federal government has dictated they may not own a Glock 19? A released felon is still allowed a muzzle loader, lots of lead balls, and up to 10 pounds of powder. That is how the COTUS is interpreted today.

And if Martha Stewart wants a firearm, she can apply for restoration of rights. There is a process for that. Or she can get a muzzle loader.

Overall, I really am OK with that. "

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DogWalksWithMe replied to the thread Fairness Logic.
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Quote Originally Posted by Siam View Post
Children should not be punished for the acts of the parents. The parents need to be prosecuted.

If the kid got into Stanford, regardless of the parental misdeeds, I think they should be allowed to stay as long as they meet the requirements. The parents need to be sent to jail and severly punished to send a message that it is not OK and that THEY will suffer.
What if they took part in the scam, staging the rowing photos, knowing someone else get them a better score on the SATs?

Agree if the kids did not have a clue.

Not sure how to decide if the kids knew, but remained silent as the parents (like for many years before) continued to usher them into the future. "

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DogWalksWithMe replied to the thread Felon and GCA 1968: Actress cries as she pleads guilty in college admissions scandal.
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Quote Originally Posted by jmf552 View Post
COTUS and the BOR don't say that. "Prisoner of the people" is not a constitutional or legal term.
But Due Process is.

​No person shall ... be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law
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DogWalksWithMe replied to the thread Fairness Logic.
" I rarely drink beer, but did kick back with some tequila. "

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DogWalksWithMe replied to the thread Tim Conway, star of the 'Carol Burnett Show,' dies at 85.
" RIP, you were great!

Fast forward to about 1 minute in:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FR-EzL0tzKk "

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DogWalksWithMe replied to the thread Fairness Logic.
" Was that six words in a row or just a six letter word? "

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DogWalksWithMe replied to the thread Felon and GCA 1968: Actress cries as she pleads guilty in college admissions scandal.
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Quote Originally Posted by Siam View Post
1: This is the correct forum, (not current events) because it is about gun rights
2: This is not about a Hollywood star that might or not own firearms or her thoughts about them, it is about being a felon and no longer having the right to bear arms.

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Totally stupid that these folks cannot bear arms after they serve their sentences.
OK, as long as that is the direction this discussion takes. "

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DogWalksWithMe created the thread TN HB 1264 Passed.
" TN HB 1264 renames the existing carry permit as the Enhanced Carry Permit, and creates a new "concealed" carry permit.

Rather than posting a link, I need help finding a link to the bill as amended and passed; I can only find the original draft bill on line.

Governor Bill Lee has indicated he will sign the bill.

Key points as I understand them:

- New permit good for 5 years, enhanced is good for 8

- New permit $65, Enhanced is $100

- New permit 90 minute on line course and written test, Enhanced 8 hr course, written and practical shooting test

- Concealed vs open? (part of why I need to see the actual text)

- New permit unlikely to qualify for reciprocity with other states (my opinion) "

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DogWalksWithMe created the thread Sri Lanka Catholic Churches and Westernized Hotels Bombed.
" At least 100 dead and 400 injured in multiple coordinated suicide bombings:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/21/w...explosion.html

Some of the victims were killed as worshipers gathered for Mass at St. Anthonyís Shrine in Colombo, the capital; St. Sebastianís Church in Negombo, about 20 miles north of Colombo; and Zion Church in the eastern city of Batticaloa, officials said.
The attacks also targeted high-end hotels in Colombo, the capital, including the Shangri-La, the Cinnamon Grand and the Kingsbury.
But some are not ready to call it Radical Islamic Terrorism...


Meenakshi Ganguly, the South Asia director at Human Rights Watch, said that given Sri Lankaís long history of ethnic and religious violence, including a nearly three-decade civil war that only ended in 2009, it was premature to jump to conclusions about whether radicalized Muslims might have played a role in the attacks.
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DogWalksWithMe created the thread Pelosi is a NIMBY?.
" https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.was...f75_story.html

Trump administration officials have proposed transporting detained immigrants to sanctuary cities at least twice in the past six months — once in November, as a migrant caravan approached the U.S. southern border, and again in February, amid a standoff with Democrats over funding for Trump’s border wall.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s district in San Francisco was among those the White House wanted to target, according to DHS officials. The administration also considered releasing detainees in other Democratic strongholds.

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Pelosi’s office blasted the plan.
“The extent of this administration’s cynicism and cruelty cannot be overstated,” said Pelosi spokeswoman Ashley Etienne. “Using human beings — including little children — as pawns in their warped game to perpetuate fear and demonize immigrants is despicable.”
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DogWalksWithMe created the thread New Feature: Now you can Love a Post.
" For those who want to give 1,000 likes but the forum software won't let you, you can now Love a Post.

JeanLouise and 1MoreGoodGuy put this together while I wasn't doing much else of value.

It doesn't actually give out 1,000 likes but it does add to the reputation of a poster.

So go ahead and share the Love, or Likes, or LOLs as you feel a post deserves. "

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DogWalksWithMe created the thread New Feature: Collapsed Quotes.
" Collapsed Quotes is now a new forum feature.

When long sections are quoted, they now take up less space on the page. Here is an example:

Preamble to the Bill of Rights

*Congress of the United States

begun and held at the City of New-York, on Wednesday the fourth of March, one thousand seven hundred and eighty nine.
THE Conventions of a number of the States, having at the time of their adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added: And as extending the ground of public confidence in the Government, will best ensure the beneficent ends of its institution. RESOLVED by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America, in Congress assembled, two thirds of both Houses concurring, that the following Articles be proposed to the Legislatures of the several States, as amendments to the Constitution of the United States, all, or any of which Articles, when ratified by three fourths of the said Legislatures, to be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of the said Constitution; viz. ARTICLES in addition to, and Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America, proposed by Congress, and ratified by the Legislatures of the several States, pursuant to the fifth Article of the original Constitution.Frederick Augustus Muhlenberg Speaker of the House of Representatives John Adams, Vice-President of the United States and President of the Senate.
Attest, John Beckley, Clerk of the House of Representatives. Sam. A. Otis Secretary of the Senate. *On September 25, 1789, Congress transmitted to the state legislatures twelve proposed amendments, two of which, having to do with Congressional representation and Congressional pay, were not adopted. The remaining ten amendments became the Bill of Rights.
Amendment 1
- Freedom of Religion, Speech, and the Press
Congress shall make no law <abbr title="Concerning; pertaining to." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">respecting</abbr> an <abbr title="A government-supported church; the act of making a particular religious sect or denomination the official church of a state or nation." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">establishment of religion</abbr> or <abbr title="Forbidding; preventing; hindering." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">prohibiting</abbr> the free <abbr title="Use, practice, or application; the act or process of taking part in." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">exercise</abbr> <abbr title="Of the thing previously mentioned. (That is, of &quot;religion.&quot" style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">thereof</abbr>, or <abbr title="Reducing, diminishing, or making less." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">abridging</abbr> the freedom of <abbr title="The expression of ideas by spoken words." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">speech</abbr> or of the <abbr title="The process or business of printing and publishing." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">press</abbr>, or the right of the people <abbr title="Without disturbance; peacefully." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">peaceably</abbr> to <abbr title="" style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">assemble</abbr> and to <abbr title="To make a formal request to (usually in writing)." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">petition</abbr> the government for a <abbr title="Relief or compensation for some wrong or injury." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">redress</abbr> of <abbr title="Conditions that cause harm or distress; formal complaints." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">grievances</abbr>.
Amendment 2
- The Right to Bear Arms
A <abbr title="Put in good order." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">well-regulated</abbr> M<abbr title="A nation's able-bodied men who are not enlisted in the regular armed forces but may be called into military service in an emergency." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">ilitia</abbr> being necessary to the <abbr title="Protection; safety." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">security</abbr> of a free <abbr title="A nation or government." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">State</abbr>, the right of the people to keep and <abbr title="To carry; to be equipped or furnished with." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">bear</abbr> A<abbr title="Weapons; firearms." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">rms</abbr> shall not be <abbr title="Broken; violated; trespassed." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">infringed</abbr>.
Amendment 3
- The Housing of Soldiers
No soldier shall, in time of peace, be <abbr title="Provided with housing or shelter." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">quartered</abbr> in any house without the <abbr title="Approval or agreement." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">consent</abbr> of the owner, nor in time of war <abbr title="Except; unless." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">but</abbr> in a <abbr title="" style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">manner</abbr> to be <abbr title="Ordered, directed, or laid down as a rule." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">prescribed</abbr> by law.
Amendment 4
- Protection from Unreasonable Searches and Seizures
The right of the people to be <abbr title="Free from danger; safe." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">secure</abbr> in their <abbr title="Living bodies; physical existence." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">persons</abbr>, houses, papers, and <abbr title="Goods; movable property (as opposed to land)." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">effects</abbr> against <abbr title="Going beyond reason or moderation. (In this case, going beyond what is needed to determine whether a person accused of a crime is guilty.)" style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">unreasonable</abbr> <abbr title="Instances of police officers looking for evidence of crimes." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">searches</abbr> and <abbr title="Instances of police officers arresting suspected criminals or taking evidence of criminal activity." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">seizures</abbr>shall not be <abbr title="Broken; infringed; trespassed." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">violated</abbr>, and no <abbr title="Orders or documents issued by a judge authorizing police officers to make arrests, search or seize property, or otherwise administer justice." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">warrants</abbr> shall <abbr title="To be issued, sent out, or delivered." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">issue</abbr> <abbr title="Except; unless." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">but</abbr> upon <abbr title="Sufficient reasons for believing that a criminal charge is based on good evidence." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">probable cause</abbr>, supported by <abbr title="A solemn declaration by an individual (such as in a court of law) that involves calling upon God to witness the truth of what one says." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">oath</abbr> or <abbr title="A solemn declaration that may be made in place of an oath and often results in legal penalties if the statement is found to be false." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">affirmation</abbr>, and <abbr title="Individually; distinctly; in detail." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">particularly</abbr>describing the place to be searched and the persons or things to be seized.
Amendment 5
- Protection of Rights to Life, Liberty, and Property
No person shall be <abbr title="Required to give an explanation or accounting of; charged with." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">held to answer for</abbr> a <abbr title="A crime that is punishable by death." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">capital</abbr> or otherwise <abbr title="(Pronounced IN-fuh-mus.) A crime that is punishable by death or imprisonment." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">infamous crime</abbr> unless on a <abbr title="(Pronounced in-DITE-munt.) A formal, written charge of criminal misconduct presented to a court of law by a grand jury." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">presentment or indictment</abbr> of a <abbr title="A body of twelve to twenty-three citizens appointed to examine criminal accusations to decide whether there is enough evidence to require a public trial." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">grand jury</abbr>, except in <abbr title="Lawsuits, accusations, or legal questions brought before a judge or court of law for decision." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">cases</abbr> <abbr title="Originating; appearing; coming into being." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">arising</abbr> in the <abbr title="" style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">land or naval forces</abbr>, or in the <abbr title="A nation's able-bodied men who are not enlisted in the regular armed forces but may be called into military service in an emergency." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">militia</abbr>, when in actual service in time of war or <abbr title="Pertaining to the government or the people at large." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">public</abbr> danger; nor shall any person be <abbr title="Liable; obligated; responsible." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">subject</abbr> for the same <abbr title="A crime; a violation of the law." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">offense</abbr> to be twice put <abbr title="In danger of losing. (That is, as a result of a court trial.)" style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">in jeopardy of</abbr> life or <abbr title="An arm or leg. (&quot;Life or limb&quot; has come to mean life or liberty.)" style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">limb</abbr>; nor shall be <abbr title="Forced; required." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">compelled</abbr> in any criminal case to be a <abbr title="A person who has definite knowledge of a fact or event and may give testimony in a court of law." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">witness</abbr> against himself, nor <abbr title="To have (something) withheld or taken away." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">be deprived of</abbr> life, liberty, or property without <abbr title="Legal procedures (such as a trial by jury) carried out according to the established law of the land." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">due process of law</abbr>; nor shall private property be taken for public use without <abbr title="Fair payment." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">just compensation</abbr>.
Amendment 6
- Rights of Accused Persons in Criminal Cases
In all <abbr title="Instances of taking legal action in court against someone accused of committing a crime." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">criminal prosecutions</abbr>, the <abbr title="A person who has been accused of breaking the law. (Often called the defendant in a court case.)" style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">accused</abbr> shall enjoy the right to a speedy and <abbr title="Open to the people; not secret." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">public</abbr> trial by an <abbr title="Fair; not favoring one party or side more than the other." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">impartial</abbr> <abbr title="A body of citizens appointed to examine a case brought before a court of law and to give a verdict (decision) according to the evidence presented. (See III.2.3.)" style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">jury</abbr> of the state and <abbr title="A particular area or region." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">district</abbr> <abbr title="In which; where." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">wherein</abbr> the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been <abbr title="Before; at an earlier time." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">previously</abbr> <abbr title="Defined; fixed; established." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">ascertained</abbr> by law, and to be informed of the <abbr title="Kind, type, or class." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">nature</abbr> and <abbr title="A reason or motive." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">cause</abbr> of the <abbr title="A charge of crime or wrongdoing." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">accusation</abbr>; to be <abbr title="Set face to face with; brought into the presence of." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">confronted with</abbr> the <abbr title="Persons who have definite knowledge of a fact or event and may give testimony in a court of law." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">witnesses</abbr> against him; to have <abbr title="The use of government authority or officers to compel or require certain actions." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">compulsory process</abbr> for obtaining witnesses in his favor; and to have the assistance of <abbr title="One or more lawyers qualified to give legal advice and represent a person or organization in a court case." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">counsel</abbr> for his defense.
Amendment 7
- Rights in Civil Cases
In <abbr title="Lawsuits; formal applications to a court of law for justice; acts of suing in court for the recovery of a right or claim." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">suits</abbr> <abbr title="Occurring in; involving." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">at</abbr> <abbr title="The unwritten body of rules and customs developed in England over several centuries and having the effect of law in many court decisions. (As opposed to written law, also called statute law, which is enacted by a legislature. &quot;Suits at common law&quot; are civil cases, not criminal cases.)" style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">common law</abbr>, where the value <abbr title="In dispute; in question; contended for. (That is, in the lawsuit being argued in court.)" style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">in controversy</abbr> shall <abbr title="To surpass or go beyond; to be greater than." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">exceed</abbr> twenty dollars, the right of trial by <abbr title="A body of citizens appointed to examine a case brought before a court of law and to give a verdict (decision) according to the evidence presented." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">jury</abbr> shall be <abbr title="Kept safe from harm or destruction; upheld or sustained; kept free from change, decay, or corruption." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">preserved</abbr>, and no <abbr title="(See III.2.2, which has been modified by this provision.)" style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">fact</abbr> tried by a jury shall be <abbr title="In a different way than; by other means than." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">otherwise</abbr> <abbr title="Inquired into again; tried again." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">reexamined</abbr> in any court of the United States than according to the rules of the common law.
Amendment 8
- Excessive Bail, Fines, and Punishments Forbidden
<abbr title="Going beyond what is fair, proper, or normal." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">Excessive</abbr> <abbr title="" style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">bail</abbr> shall not be required, nor excessive <abbr title="Amounts of money charged by the government as punishment for breaking the law." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">fines</abbr> <abbr title="Laid on or charged as a burden or penalty." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">imposed</abbr>, nor cruel and unusual punishments <abbr title="" style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">inflicted</abbr>.
Amendment 9
- Other Rights Kept by the People
The <abbr title="" style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">enumeration</abbr> in the Constitution of certain rights shall not be <abbr title="Understood, interpreted, or explained." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">construed</abbr> to <abbr title="To withhold; to refuse to grant." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">deny</abbr> or <abbr title="To injure or dishonor; to degrade or make of less value." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">disparage</abbr> others <abbr title="Held; kept in possession." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">retained</abbr> by the people.
Amendment 10
- Undelegated Powers Kept by the States and the People
The powers not <abbr title="Entrusted or assigned, as to an authorized representative." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">delegated</abbr> to the United States by the Constitution, nor <abbr title="Forbidden; made unlawful; ruled out." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">prohibited</abbr> by <abbr title="(That is, the Constitution.)" style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">it</abbr> to the states, are <abbr title="Retained; kept back; set aside." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">reserved</abbr> to the states <abbr title="Individually; separately." style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); cursor: help;">respectively</abbr>, or to the people.
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March 31st, 2019, 01:30 PM   0 Comment(s)   Favourite

DogWalksWithMe created the thread California High Capacity Magazine Ban Ruled Unconstitutional.
" About 2 decades ago, California outlawed import and transfer of high capacity magazines. That law grandfathered existing magazines, owners could still keep those.

Then a recent law made those grandfathered magazines illegal. This newer law was challenged. And it was just declared unconstitutional. The ruling might be bigger than that, it may declare magazine capacity limits are also unconstitutional. Have not read the ruling yet.

Ruling here:

https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Duncan-Summary-Judgment-CA-Guns.pdf
"

March 30th, 2019, 09:43 AM   0 Comment(s)   Favourite

DogWalksWithMe created the thread Bump Stock Ban In Effect Today.
" Yup, destroy them or surrender them to the government.

Frankly, I don't think they are a good accessory and have no use for them. I also think the original application as far as ADA was BS marketing. My opinion.

But bump stocks are now declared in the same class as machine guns. I'm OK with that too, in the context of existing laws (separate from opinions of constitutionality of those laws, they are on the books).

But now I run into a problem. Fine, they come under NFA... But destruction or confiscation is not the same as getting a tax stamp for a machine gun.

Which to me means that owners should at least have the option of applying for a tax stamp to own a bump stock the same as if they were purchasing a machine gun.

I know certain members here are of the "not one inch" and "shall not be infringed" persuasion...

I respect that. Please set that aside and assume SCOTUS will deem existing regulations constitutional on the principal of already being in force "for a long time."

Within the existing legal framework, is there any legal basis for destruction or confiscation of bump stocks? Or could the courts rule regulation as machine guns is appropriate? Assuming someone appeals to the highest court on that basis. "

March 26th, 2019, 05:31 PM   0 Comment(s)   Favourite

DogWalksWithMe created the thread Tennessee New Concealed-only Permit Proposed.
" Two bills are in committee, HR 1264 and companion bill SB 0704. Here is HB 1264:

https://d3lp4xedbqa8a5.cloudfront.ne...diablo-v12.jpg

Article about it:

http://tennesseestar.com/2019/03/01/...-in-the-house/

A bill to create two types of handgun carry permits, sponsored by State Representative Andy Holt (R-Dresden) as HB 1264, passed out of the House Judiciary Committee this week.

The bill, if it should become law, reclassifies current handgun carry permits as an “Enhanced Handgun Carry Permit” (EHCP), and creates a new “Concealed Handgun Carry Permit” (CHCP).

The EHCP does not specify that the manner in which a handgun is carried, therefore allowing both concealed and open carry. EHCP holders will generally be exempt from current restrictions regarding carrying in public areas such as parks and education-related properties.The application fee for an ECHP is $100.

The CHCP would allow handguns to be carried only in a concealed manner. There shall be no application fee for the CHCP and it shall be valid for eight [five?] years from the date of issuance.

...


After expressing his confusion because the current system seems to work great, Representative Bill Beck (D-Nashville), asked the bill sponsor, Holt, “Why are we trying to fix something that’s not broken?”

Holt explained that there are lots of people that live paycheck to paycheck with limited money for what could be considered discretionary spending. The proposal will reduce cost, offering a more affordable option and choices regarding what is a constitutional issue.
"

March 8th, 2019, 07:10 AM   0 Comment(s)   Favourite

DogWalksWithMe created the thread Discussion of HR 8.
" My feed is stuffed with how horrible this bill is, as if it has a snowball's chance in the senate. I don't think it does.

The reason for my opinion is that none of the feeds actually include a link to the bill.

Can anyone find a link to Pelosi's actual bill?

Given a link, I'll change this Thread topic to "Discussion of HR8."

ETA: ccw9mm found the link, Topic changed. "

February 8th, 2019, 05:51 PM   0 Comment(s)   Favourite

DogWalksWithMe created the thread A Modified Glock That Fits My Hand!.
" How fortuitous, I just had a like on this post in another thread:

https://www.personaldefenseforum.net...993#post276993

Where I said:

... that is just because Glocks don't fit my hand.


They just don't, I have to tilt my wrists up to get on target, not good for the carpel tunnel.

But today, a Sheriff showed me his modified G22. And other than some left/right variation, it is naturally on-target in terms of up/down position. Very close to my Sig!.

Now the question is where do I get this mod part? The sheriff can not remember who makes it or what it is called.

Here is a pic of the modification (note the back of the grip and the beaver tail):

Attachment 19879

It attaches with three screws; it also looks like it is bonded to the frame, can not see a seam (well, I can see a seam in the pic, could not see it looking at the firearm).

Anyone have an idea what this part is and where I can get one? "

February 4th, 2019, 05:14 PM   0 Comment(s)   Favourite

DogWalksWithMe created the thread Jerry Miculek versus Bump Stock.
" He needed more practice to really run it, but I set that aside and listened to his commentary regarding the sport.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grgfKJT4Z48 "

January 20th, 2019, 03:06 PM   0 Comment(s)   Favourite