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" So the SCOTUS ruling again means nothing as long as it is gov violating it. "

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Quote Originally Posted by RScottie View Post
Chief Justice Roberts, Justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Stephen G. Breyer, Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan voted for this.

The more Conservative members did not support the 4th Amendment?

What's up with that?
Conservative members, politicians etc are never going to vote for anything that reduces LE power to subvert the COTUS.
They are authoritarian, and support wide latitude for LE, to step around the COTUS.

Not surprising the vote went as it did. "

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Ghost1958 replied to the thread Red Flag law scenerio.
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Quote Originally Posted by Arejay View Post
Not voting is actually saying something to somebody somewhere.. Nobody knows why your not voting. At the very least somebody somewhere will think your saying you just don't care enough about your citizenship to vote.

When you vote, somebody somewhere hears you.

We do realize that one can vote for congress critters and not for POTUS or vice versa?

I will vote for who I think Will uphold the RTKABA or try too.

I'm not likely to vote for anyone who advances any infringement on the RTKABA no matter how small. "

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Ghost1958 replied to the thread From a former disbeliever: Why Texas could go blue in 2020.
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Quote Originally Posted by BMcPhe44 View Post
Agree with your premise as we all know that the opposition uses any negotiation to further their goal of confiscation but the fact is that the goal, in my opinion, is to keep the Democrats out of office. History has shown time and again that the most deleterious gun control legislation has come at the hands of the Democrats. I believe that the bump stock ban is a bone Trump can throw out to those who don't want confiscation but who are just snowflake enough to think that maybe Trump is not hardline pro-gun enough to make them consider voting Democrat to soothe their fears. While it doesn't set well with those of us who know that negotiation with Democrats on this is futile, if it keeps those Democrats out of the office for 4 more years, and allows Trump to appoint at least one more SCOTUS member it may turn the tide on SCOTUS rulings in the future.

Again this effort is driven by the people. I have seen polls that show that the bump stock ban doesn't affect Trump's numbers even among gun owners and it has very high numbers among the general population. I think the calculation has been made that the ban on bump stocks will help him in 2020 more than it will hurt him. I believe that most gun owners in the general population agree with the idea that they have no place to go other than Trump if they hope to keep the gun grabbing Democrats out of office for 4 more years, and they won't abandon Trump over bump stocks. Should Trump cave and pass UBCs or red flag no due process laws those numbers would probably reverse and I am hopeful that he knows it.

Ive,never met anyone in 50 yrs who was,polled,about anythibg and I doubt you have either.

I can tell you for a,FACT I know, many gun owners personally who voted for Trump but won't again over the ban ,Fix nics and the crap he keeps spewing now,about red flag , mental health and guns etc ad nausem, whether he means it or not.

He is 12d chess playing himself out of office. "

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Quote Originally Posted by BMcPhe44 View Post
No, unless he has made a statement since the recent shootings. "NEW VETO THREAT: Trump Says He’ll Block Democrat Gun Control Scheme"------- that includes UBCs
"On Monday, the White House released a statement indicating that President Trump would veto bills, H.R. 8 and H.R, 1112, that would expand so-called “background checks” for all gun purchases if they make it past the House and Senate."


ETA:Under this pressure he could change his mind but until he does it-------he hasn't done it.

I can't keep up. Just yesterday I read in the news he was sure he could " being the Republicans to get there on background checks".

And I am certain he's called for red flag to be passed in the states , and passing incentives for those that do. "

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Quote Originally Posted by jeanlouise View Post
I'm a little confused about the background check that's being pushed. Isn't that what NICS is? Is there something more in depth they want or is it that they want any gun transfer to go through a background check?
Jean, what the Dems a few republicans and Trump want is every gun sale or trade, even private sales between individuals to go through a FFL background check. "

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Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Boo View Post
Ghost, I've been looking at N82. They look a little large and only have one clip, but everyone sings their praises for comfort. Maybe I should reconsider. I'll take another look. thanks for the advice.

CVA 59
The one clip is all they need. Actually at first the holster was designed to be clipless. The clip was added but really it could do without it.

My wife and I both carry SR9C in a N82 for years.

My wife is not a large woman and she has,no trouble concealing her pistol. They do look large but quickly form to your body and conceal very well. "

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Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Boo View Post
Ghost, I've been looking at N82. They look a little large and only have one clip, but everyone sings their praises for comfort. Maybe I should reconsider. I'll take another look. thanks for the advice.

CVA 59
The one clip is all they need. Actually at first the holster was designed to be clipless. The clip was added but really it could do without it.

My wife and I both carry SR9C in a N82 for years.

My wife is not a large woman and she has,no trouble concealing her pistol. They do look large but quickly form to your body and conceal very well. "

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Ghost1958 replied to the thread From a former disbeliever: Why Texas could go blue in 2020.
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Quote Originally Posted by BMcPhe44 View Post
I actually was making the point that Mitch and Rand were not on board with some of "your" stances on the RTKAB, and then I stated my opinion that Mitch (for sure) and Rand (maybe) would not be much more pro-RTKAB than Trump "if they were running for a National office", though I did leave out the qualifier and I apologize for that. Simply put Mitch and Rand are pro-gun because that gets them elected, they would be a lot more Trumpian if they were seeking the Presidency. For sure with Mitch and probably with Rand as well. However, I would definitely vote for Rand for President if he was on a ticket that had a chance of keeping the Democrats out of that office.

McConnell-
In the Senate debate over proposed legislation eliminating restrictions on the voting rights of ex-felons, Senator Mitch McConnell (R-KY) argued that, among other things, removing disenfranchisement bans could “dilute the vote of law-abiding citizens” (U.S. Congress 2002, p. S802).

"Similarly, in the 2002 Senate debate, Senator McConnell noted explicitly that restoring voting rights to ex-offenders would mean that “rapists, murderers, robbers, and even terrorists or spies” would be allowed to vote (U.S. Congress 2002, p. S802).

https://news.yahoo.com/mcconnell-gre...080000730.html This article on 8/8/19
"McConnell said Thursday that he and Trump spoke earlier in the day about the issue, and both agreed a bipartisan deal is needed and that “two items that for sure will be front and center” are background checks for gun buyers and encouraging state “red flag” laws intended to take firearms away from dangerous or mentally ill people."

Paul-This is a little harder and the case can easily be made that he is more pro-2nd than either Trump or McConnell, but would he be on the National stage faced with these shootings?? Maybe and maybe not. There is a few things out there showing Paul can play politics just like Trump. Another point even though he may be better than Trump on being pro-gun he will apparently still support Trump's reelection-----unlike you.

This tweet by Rand that raised such a fuss during his campaign for the Presidency. Rand quickly distanced himself from the tweet when it went viral. A Trumpian CYA moment by Rand if I ever saw one.

.@Judgenap: Why do we have a Second Amendment? It's not to shoot deer. It's to shoot at the government when it becomes tyrannical!

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“Senator Paul never said those words,” Sergio Gor, the communications director for the senator, told BuzzFeed News. “The tweet you reference was part of live tweeting of someone else’s speech and it was done by a staffer.”
One could certainly argue that Rand Paul endorsed this message (he invited Napolitano to speak and the message was broadcast from his Twitter account), but these weren’t Paul’s own words. This statement originated with a speech delivered by Judge Napolitano, and it was posted to Paul’s Twitter account by a staffer."

https://thehill.com/business-a-lobby...nce-with-trump
"Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) has defended President Trump on some of his most controversial moves, going against the prevailing sentiment of the libertarian movement with which he and his father, former Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas), have long been identified.

Some of the most libertarian-leaning members of Congress, such as Sens. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.) and Ben Sasse (R-Neb.), and Rep. Justin Amash (R-Mich.), have served as forceful critics of Trump within the GOP. But Rand Paul, who prefers the mantle of constitutional conservative to libertarian, has repeatedly offered Trump a stirring defense."

“Sen. Rand Paul considers President Trump a personal friend. Their relationship predates either one of them running for the presidency. From increased engagement around the world, to cutting regulations and taxes at home, to ending futile nation-building exercises around the world, they have often found areas of mutual agreement,” said Sergio Gor, Paul’s deputy chief of staff."





Again your opinion stated as fact. He might support an AR ban if the public and his base supported it but I doubt it because he probably could not win reelection if he did. After the election he will show where he really stands on this issue. We will see.



Not true in my opinion, he would go ahead and do it if that were the case. You are building a mountain out of a molehill so far, though in the future you may be proven to be right. However bad Trump gets it will never be as bad as it would be under the Democrats. I have 85 years of Democratic anti-gun bills to back that up and you have 938 days of Trump and and an EO banning bump stocks to put your faith in. You may be right about Trump but you will never have the history of the terrible gun laws the Democrats have passed to make Trump seem as bad they are.
Would you consider Reagan was pro RTKABA? "

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Ghost1958 replied to the thread Red Flag law scenerio.
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Quote Originally Posted by Hammer1270 View Post
If I may inject my 2 cents,,, I’ve heard talk about how our POTUS is not pro 2A,, how he has failed us in protecting our RTKBA,,, if I may ask,,, where the hell are we in support of our POTUS,,, I hear whining,, wa wa wa,,, I’m not voting because of bump stocks,,, that’s pure ignorance IMO,,, we talk a big game as our opponents march in the street and be heard with a loud voice,,, where are we? Pissin and moaning about the banning of a damn useless bump stock,, did we take our POTUS’s back to help him support us and even the scale? NO! We piss and moan,, wa wa wa,, DT must stand ALONE,, while the other side takes a hard and loud stance against all of us,, answer me this? Where would we be now with Murderin HRC? Here are the painful facts,, the left is smarter than us and they come out in full force in support of the tyranny that they believe in,,, we’ve done nothing in comparison to the ones that we call weak and snowflakes,,, we sit and do nothing to support our POTUS in this case,,, yes,, our POTUS hasn’t failed us,, in fact,, we have failed him,,, I can almost guarantee that if we took to the street as they do,, we would give our POTUS the Ammo to stand harder for our RTKBA... Shame on us...
Bro, you know I got your back.
But . How do we take our wood chippers lol and hit the streets supporting his calls for the Senate to pass UBC, and red flag when it's all unconstitutional and we don't want red flag and UBC?

I is confused. "

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" Glad to see no officers died and hope they recover soon.

That said if the gov would drop the stupid "drug war" which is useless , officers would not have had to risk their lives over a narcotics warrant. "

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Ghost1958 replied to the thread Ted Williams on FOX Going Anti-AR!.
" Its all kabuki theatre.
If it a politician 98 percent sure it wants your guns. All of them.

The only things that stop them from trying to get them is knowing at present they don't have the ability to take them and they want to stay in office.


As far as LE is concerned I couldn't care less about their concern over ARs.
They are over militarized and equipment wise far ahead of the citizenry. Though they are not supposed to be.

Their weakness is in being wildly outnumbered if push comes to shove in the endgame. "

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Ghost1958 replied to the thread Red Flag law scenerio.
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Quote Originally Posted by RScottie View Post
While you may not like President Trump's methods, and honestly, I sometimes worry about him for the same reasons, one thing I think we both can agree upon is that he is causing our so-called Representatives to show their true colors.

He is making them show themselves for the fake career politicians they truly are that care less about their constituents and the Constitution and more about power and getting re-elected than anything else.

But, no matter what we think of him or his methods, he is the best thing we've had in a long time to maybe fix the mess we have in regards to our gun rights.
Scottie you've met me so you know I'm not the brightest bulb in the lamp.

But for the life of me I can't see how we get to Trump is pro 2A , when he has signed fix Nics, pretty much single handedly banned bump stocks, repeatedly called for states to pass red flag laws, wants a federal one, and UBC.

I may be simple minded but I don't WANT Republican congress critters to work with him on the RTKABA. Because all he has done and all he has talked about is limiting it further.

Otherwise I wouldn't be hammering Mitch every othe t day and urging everyone I know to let Mitch know if he DOES work with him in limiting our RTKABA, he's political toast. "

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Ghost1958 replied to the thread What's oddly satisfying for you?.
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Quote Originally Posted by Rabbit212 View Post
To crush your enemies to see them driven before you and to hear the lamentations of their women.....oh wait you said satisfying not what is best.
That can be satisfying too lol. "

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Ghost1958 replied to the thread Shield Holster ?.
" N82. Most comfortable holster out there. The backing on one guarantees the thing won't move.
It has a clip but could do without one.

Lifetime gurantee , pistol never touches your skin.

Personally I went with the original model for wife and I. Any pistol in the same size range can be carried securly in the original vs the pro model.

Retention on a IWB holster doesn't accomplish anything as any IWB holster is,simply going to come out if someone were to go for one's firearm.

JMO. "

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Ghost1958 replied to the thread Red Flag law scenerio.
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Quote Originally Posted by jeanlouise View Post
I say that politics is, and always has been, a game of outwitting the opponent. If this is the way Trump chooses to play the game to accomplish what he wants in the end...so be it. The final goal of "no Red Flag Laws" is what he's shooting for.

BTW, who is this fictional politician you're so enamored of who never manipulated the other side?
I'm just curious Jean. How do you get to Trumps goal is,no red flag when for over a year he has done nothing but urge states to enact them, stated plainly he is for "getting the guns first , dur process later" and is trying to work the Republicans into supporting both red flag and UBC.??

I'm not trying to argue . Just don't see the reasoning behind that thinking.

We know he banned bump stocks single handedly, and signed fix nics.

How,does one come to the conclusion he wants the opposite of what he says , when he's proven to be anti gun? "

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Ghost1958 replied to the thread From a former disbeliever: Why Texas could go blue in 2020.
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Quote Originally Posted by BMcPhe44 View Post
Never thought for a second that you or anyone else would care about my opinion, but I at least I stated it as an opinion which, as of now I am entitled to. If it happens I will state it as fact. However if Trump signs a bill as onerous as the bill above that the Dems are pushing, or signs a red flag bill with no due process, then your stated fact of how bad he is will become an actual fact. However even if he does those things he still will not have inflicted as much damage to the 2nd as the Democrats have in their long sordid history of anti-gun legislation. The people who put the Democrats in control by voting for them in 1934, 36,38,40,42,44,46, 62, 64, 66, 68, 94, are all directly responsible for every gun control bill that the Dems passed, and they were bad, far worse than anything the Donald has even voiced support for. The Democrats and the people who voted for them opened the floodgates for Federal gun control when there was none.



Take a long look at statements made by both Paul and McConnell on just how they support the 2nd, while they are very good in the case of Paul (not so much so for Mitch), neither of them rise to the level that you seem to support. They both have made statements that are in conflict with some of your stated beliefs that have appeared here. Are you cutting them some slack just because they are from your State or do you just dislike Trump that much? Is there a little TDS at play here? Don't get me wrong I had a touch of it myself during the primary but I got over it when Trump sent Hillary and the DNC packing.



Trump is anti-RTKAB compared to you or even me, but he has not "proven" to be more anti-RTKAB than McConnell and not much more so than Paul. I am not trying to convince you to vote for Trump, I know your opinion, and I disagree that your path is the correct one. I simply am stating my opinion backed with some research that bolsters my argument. I don't seek agreement from anyone, I am voicing my opinion.

I personally cannot find an instance where,Paul has supported any gun control. Please cite an instance id possible.

Mitch as I said will ALWAYS take care of Mitch.
For purposes of selection that means no passage of any gun control or red flag.

Trump would ban "assault " weapons if there was sufficent support for it. In his own words there,isn't but he says,he can bring the Republicans around to passing more gun control.

Yes he's WAY more anti gun than Paul, or even Mitch.
He just can't get as far as he would like. "

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Quote Originally Posted by Nakyak View Post
I was going to tell you that I received the shipment of carbide replacement teeth for your chipper. I bought so many they sent me a free pallet of shoe laces.
Send em on. The teeth are,still sharp but the shoelaces are gettin scarce lol "

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Ghost1958 replied to the thread From a former disbeliever: Why Texas could go blue in 2020.
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Quote Originally Posted by Rabbit212 View Post
You think DT can win without Texas?? So yes in this case Texas does control who gets into the white house. Betos run at Ted Cruz should be a wake up call those states that were a given are not anymore.

I don't think a candidate nessacarily HAS to win Texas to be president.
If one state can control the outcome of a national election then something needs changed with our elctoral system . "

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Quote Originally Posted by Dallas60 View Post
Well, when you have radical extremist left-wingers, there is always a guarantee of radical extremist right wingers!

PDF I'm sure is a local meeting place for them!
Meeting place for radical right wingers or left wingers? "

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Ghost1958 replied to the thread What's oddly satisfying for you?.
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Quote Originally Posted by Nakyak View Post
Yep. The cracking of log as it splits is a good one for me.

I figured you were going to say your wood chipper
Well there is that but don't use that too often.

Another thing that's oddly satisfying is seeing homeless strays wander in for brief stays .LOL "

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" Spitting firewood. It's a lot more satisfying now that I have a log splitter vs a splittin hammer. "

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Quote Originally Posted by Siam View Post
I guess you and I control the fate of the USA now!

I can barely cintol the fate of my lawn. You and you alone must pilot the ship "

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Ghost1958 replied to the thread What might happen if trump simply aired this?;.
" Obama didn't push much for him control in his first term. He didn't campaign on it and he wanted to be relected. Gun control , regardless of make believe polls is a political loser when the votes are counted.

The Dems learned that the hard way with the "assault" weapons ban that cost them dearly .

In his 2nd term he didn't care because there was no election for him to worry about.

Just like Trump won't if he wins a 2nd term. "

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Ghost1958 replied to the thread What might happen if trump simply aired this?;.
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Quote Originally Posted by Rabbit212 View Post
Oh sorry back to the original question what would happen if Trump aired any of that?? Nada, zero, zilch. Rush, Dana, and everyone on the conservative media side have been blowing that horn repeatedly and who's listening??? Conservatives and nobody else. Who is he going to influence at this point?? Are there any fence sitters to go after?? Trump isnt going to "win" any new voters his best bet is to keep what he has and hope the other side doesn't come out and vote. Oh and as for keeping what he has....I hear more folks not voting for him again then folks saying they will vote for him this time.
That is his own fault. "

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Quote Originally Posted by Maxwell View Post
Siam,

Is everything black & white to you? Either is or is not? Will or won't? Does or does not?

There is a whole lot of grey in this world... Just sayin'
The RTKABA is black and white.

We have already lost it. Now either we get REAL black and white with idiots who keep passing even more infringement and calling for more, regardless what party, or we can get ready to all just be colored grey. "

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Ghost1958 replied to the thread From a former disbeliever: Why Texas could go blue in 2020.
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Quote Originally Posted by BMcPhe44 View Post
It is kind of like the rationale for the left's support of gun control to start with. They know these laws will not stop the mass shootings or criminal activity in general and yet they still push them. The underlying reason for doing so is not even obvious to them and they don't have the commonsense to see that these laws accomplish "nothing" in solving the shootings because their actual reasoning for wanting them is not to solve crime but rather to confiscate them. Same reasoning on display here, not voting, voting 3rd party, or voting Democrat solves "nothing" and in fact makes the the goal of the Democrats entirely possible, perhaps in the next election cycle, so either a civil war occurs or we lose our freedoms. It is not just the "2nd Amendment" that will suffer.

You are free to vote, vote Democrat, stay at home and pout or whatever you believe is accomplishing your goal but in my "opinion" if you do so you are accomplishing exactly what these gun control nuts want you to accomplish------increasing their chances of taking power back. So if that happens, yes I will blame each and everyone of you that does so, just like I blame the leftists and CINOs who pass these these laws that accomplish nothing in an attempt to destroy the RTKAB (of course that will be just my opinion).

Please don't throw Trump's dalliance with these laws as reason to justify electing Democrats. Each and everyone of you are smart enough to know that a Trump presidency will be far easier to control than a Democrat President if there is a Republican Congress. Trump is lot more likely to ignore the MSM than the Republicans in Congress are, also Trump has actually done nothing yet outside of the EO on bump stocks and mouthing support for red flag laws with due process included. FixNics despite what many are saying was widely supported by the pro-gun community, at least until the "Democrats" slid in a "possible" poison pill that was widely discussed after the bill became law, and the law had some good corrections to NICS in it as well. None of this is as bad as what the Democrat controlled House has passed in February.

Look at history, read the Congressional record here https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes , read the history of the attacks on the 2nd by the Democrats beginning in 1934, keep current on what the Democrats in the House are doing in preparing for confiscation such as this bill:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/27/u...trol-bill.html
"WASHINGTON — The House voted on Wednesday to require background checks for all gun purchasers, including those at gun shows and on the internet — the first significant gun control bill to clear the chamber in a quarter of a century.
The 240-to-190 vote is the first of two gun control measures expected to be put to House lawmakers this week, a turning point in gun legislation after 25 years when the National Rifle Association dominated the chamber. Last year’s massacre at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Fla., prompted a wave of student-led activism that pressed Democrats to unite around gun control, and the activists cheered when the measure cleared the 218-vote threshold for passage.
The Democratic victory was tempered, however, after Republicans prevailed in adding a provision that would require the F.B.I. to alert Immigration and Customs Enforcement if an undocumented immigrant tried to obtain a firearm. Twenty-six Democrats, primarily from moderate or Republican-leaning districts, broke party lines to support the measure.
But Speaker Nancy Pelosi of California and other Democrats insisted that would ultimately have little import."

There can be no UBCs without a gun registry. Good article on it last couple of days but I can't find it so I will post this one.

https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnew...l-gun-registry
"First, the legislation says that nothing in the legislation shall be construed to allow establishment of a federal firearms registry. In addition, it says that the Attorney General may not consolidate or centralize records of firearms acquisition and disposition maintained by licensed importers, manufacturers, and dealers, and by buyers and sellers at gun shows (and makes it a crime for him to do so).
But then, the STM [Schumer, Toomey, Manchin] bill takes those protections away by using the all-powerful word “notwithstanding” — "notwithstanding any other provision of this chapter, the Attorney General may implement this subsection with regulations.” The courts may construe the “notwithstanding” to allow Attorney General Eric Holder to issue regulations that could begin to create a federal registry of firearms, because the law says he can implement the subsection without regard to the protections against a registry elsewhere in the legislation."


You can put makeup on it, do its hair, buy it a nice dress and call it pretty but in my "opinion" it is a nothing more than a do nothing effort to feel good about something that, in the end, will only make it worse, faster. The good thing about America is that for now, you are perfectly free to do it.
Can answer all that short and sweet.

Couldn't care less if YOU blame me for how I vote, or don't vote. Highly doubt anyone else does either.

I'll vote for GOP House reps and Senate unless there is a pro gun independent candidate, or my current Senators Paul and old Mitch allow one tiny piece of red flag legislation or anti RTKABA legislation to get near Trumps desk.



What I will not do is vote for Trump again.
Trump is anti RTKABA, already having proven that , "

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Quote Originally Posted by Rabbit212 View Post
Republicans/Conservatives court the Hispanic/Latino vote there solved it for you. If anyone thinks the conservative side will survive without the Hispanic vote your are living in a dream world I'm not saying court the illegal immigrants I'm saying go after the AMERICAN hispanic vote. Texas is majority Hispanic within 5 years and if Republicans lose Texas that's it game over. You cant beat math and the math says the numbers are NOT in our favor so adapt or die.

Texas controls the United States?? "

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Very impressive Ghost. I’ve known ONE person ... a winner of numerous pistol championships in the midwest ... who was an excellent shot with any make and model of handgun. I’m far south of that ability.
Thanks . But I'm hardly a champion shooter lol.

We train with each others handguns for the worst case scenario where one or more would be down the remaining cam make effective use of their weapons if needed. Since we carry multiple weapons each it could amount to a goodly amount more firepower.

Never likely to happen of course. We just want to be as well prepared as possible. "

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Quote Originally Posted by ShooterGranny View Post
Is it possible that you might shoot a gun more accurately which you shoot six times as often?

Just asking, although I do know that it is easier to get fairly rapid shots back on target with 9mm rounds than with 40 - at least that is what I have read from several posts here and other places.
Granny this is JMO . As long as I'm moving from pistol to pistol, doesn't make any difference .

From pistol to revolver it does until I get used to shooting a revolver again.

When my church security partners and I train we spend part of the time shooting each others weapons.

Moving from Glock ,to Sig, to Ruger and Smith spistols striker fired , DA/S.A. DOA, in various calibers from 9 to 40 to 45 doesn't seem to make much difference.

Move to revolvers it does until getting used to a revolver again.

Exception is the DB9 BUG I carry. At 25 yards my old eyes have a hard time with the smaller sights though I can still hit COM
The changing around doesn't seem to make a drastic difference to the other guys either. "

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Ghost1958 replied to the thread Spoiled and didn't represent the USA.
" Ali threw his gold medal into the Ohio river.

Granted that was different as it wasn't AT thecolympics. Then there were the three runners ,who gave the black power salute when getting their medals.

This guy isn't the first to do such an action.
Nothing was done before , probably nothing will be done again.

Probably the next to do the kneel will be the U.S. curling team. "

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Ghost1958 replied to the thread A guy walks into a store.
" Here's an angle not being put forth which should be.

Especially for the hand on gun , hold at gun point types concerning legal carry of a rifle into a store.

Had this occured in my neck of the woods there would have no such craziness as happened in MO.

But food for thought. Draw down on a person who has done nothing illegal its very likely you will be shot by the person who has a legal reason to fear for his life due to your unlawful act.

Didn't happen in MO , entirely likely to happen in my neck of the woods.

Not everywhere will a law abiding citizen doing nothing illegal tolerate having some other self appointed wanna be hero drawing a gun on them.

Do that in alot of places and you very well may find out if action beats reaction or not. "

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Quote Originally Posted by 21bubba View Post
I thought you took your ball and went home.
Been home all day. Actually I had until Badger directly asked me a question. That kinda got me back in the discussion when some became mind readers, claiming to have a clue what is in someone else's head.

But your right, may as well ,give up.
A Good many are fine with blatant violatin of the RTKABA, and the BOR. . "

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" Good for Tenn. "

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Quote Originally Posted by BMcPhe44 View Post
The manager did what any sane Walmart manager would have done following the events of the last few days. He was concerned for the safety of his customers and employees. He saw a man who had the means to do the same damage that occurred in El Paso. The response was exactly what the perp hoped for and that was why he was arrested.

You have any idea what the " perp" wanted how?? "

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Ghost1958 replied to the thread A guy walks into a store.
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Quote Originally Posted by 21bubba View Post
You're preaching to the choir.The average person is going to feel threaten by this clown. Whether it's his right or not. Before you say that's their problem, stop, no it's not. Perception is a powerful thing. Marching more of these clowns into public is the absolute worst thing that can be done.
Ok I waited a long time.

Now. That is their problem.

Most people THERE wernt concerned by him. Or leaving the store because of him.

That happened after the idiot manager wanted to SWAT the carrier and initiated a false alarm.
Which by the way the carrier went out because of along with everyone else.

Fire fighter has no justification to draw on him, not police to arrest him without twisting a statute which requires intent.
A mental state almost impossible to prove and obviously not present in this case. "

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" Just finished contacting Mitch , Rand Paul, reminding them a heavily pro gun state put them where they are . And that allowing ANY red flag or additional gun regulation to reach Trumps desk will likely result in theit being removed by the voters of Ky.

Also contacted my state reps and gov to oppose any red flag or gun regulation proposals

I urge My fellow Kentuckians here to do the same, and urge their friends to also. "

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Ghost1958 replied to the thread A guy walks into a store.
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Quote Originally Posted by The Badger View Post
Let me ask you a different way. You walk into a store with your child or neighbor's child and this guy walks past you. Do you just ignore him and continue over to the children's shoe department or would you leave and go back out to the car and go to a different store?

I wouldn't call 911 or the fire alarm and I think the manager should be charged under the SWATTing statute if there is one, and with pulling a fire alarm without reason or cause and fired. But he won't. He'll be deemed a hero, though Walmart might fire him.

Since I'm being directly asked I'll respond.
Personally I'll pay him no mind until he actually does something to be alarmed about.

Nothing he did would be illegal here, and police are few,and far between who will open up the hornets nest of arresting or even stopping someone for OC here.

Of course if some moron pulled a fire alarm I'd have to go back outside because of that.

What happened in MO wouldn't happen in the area where I live. And what happened in MO wouldn't have happened there except for the store manager being an idiot.

The way Wal-Mart's are laid out only a tiny portion of the patrons could have known he was even in there.

You are right though . The manager will get a pat in the back, the firefighter won't be charged, and this guy will be railroaded into court in bogus charges though he likely will win the case in the end. "

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Quote Originally Posted by BMcPhe44 View Post
The manager did what any sane Walmart manager would have done following the events of the last few days. He was concerned for the safety of his customers and employees. He saw a man who had the means to do the same damage that occurred in El Paso. The response was exactly what the perp hoped for and that was why he was arrested.

The manager was a snowflake idiot who sounded a false,alarm over a person performing a legal act, presenting no threat to anyone.

Now the carrier is being dumped on by an obviously anti gun chief of police and county prosecutor instead of charging the manager for creating a panic and the firefighter for assault with a deadly weapon or equivalent charge. He had NO grounds or authority to put the rifle carrier at gun point as the rifle carrier presented no threat to him at all.

This reaction by gun owners to another carrier doing nothing illegal , presenting no factual threat to anyone , is why we most likely will never regain the right to keep and bear arms.

And with that I'm out of this thread . Carry on. "

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Ghost1958 replied to the thread A guy walks into a store.
" I'll point out one thing that's getting ignored for the most part and then let this run its course.

The MANAGER caused the panic, not the carrier.
The manager panicked raised a,false alarm causing everyone to leave the store including the carrier. And the firefighter is lucky hes still breathing as he had no threat to point too to justify his drawing down on anyone. "

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" He's running an active campaign so I don't think he's retiring.
He may be falling into the Trump trap but just watching him answer questions he sounds like the same old stall ,bob, and weave Mitch he's always been when it comes to guns cuz he knows that area will cost him office .

If KY freedom lovers and gun owners keep his losing office over gun control front and center of his nose, he likely won't allow a vote on it. "

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Ghost1958 created the thread This time KY gun owners can make a difference..
" Usually Ky is an afterthought on national affairs.

This time around we hold the key to more gun regulation or no more infringement.

Mitch McConnell can stop any gun regulation proposals dead in their tracks .

So now is the time for all Kentucians who believe in the Constitution and the RTKABA to stand up and make a difference.

Call and write ole Mitch and tell him in no uncertain terms one gun regulation or Red Flag law passes the Senate and he becomes unemployed at election time.

Urge your friends to do so.

And continue doing so weekly so there is no doubt in his mind his cushy job is at stake. "

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Ghost1958 replied to the thread Hold onto Your Hats.
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Quote Originally Posted by ccw9mm View Post
We'll see.

Funny how people change, when their careers are faced with ending. If the man appears to be a one-man roadblock against doing "something" then he's going to face a very ugly national backlash, irrespective of what constituents in KY might think or do.

In some respects, it's 2013 all over again, following the Sandy Hook (CT) murderer's actions. Who knows if, nationally, "the People" will tolerate yet another large-scale instance of Congress "doing nothing" with respect to arms and the RKBA.
Mitch can be counted on to take care of Mitch and his career above all else.

KY as a state is heavily pro gun as you know.

Mitch will stall, play lip service to gun regulation , But he almost sunk his shop here with fix nics.

Regardless of national opinion, Mitch as senator exists at the pleasure of Ky.

If he allows one gun regulation through , he knows that career is over. "

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Ghost1958 replied to the thread A guy walks into a store.
" I guess it's time for us all to just forget there is a RIGHT to be armed as we choose, pile onto this guy, who did nothing he did not have a right to do, like gun owners have a tendency to do anytime someone actually exercises the RTKABA as protected by the 2 A.

Sorry but some of us aren't ever going to get to that point. "

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Quote Originally Posted by ccw9mm View Post
To be fair, this Dale (MD) situation was one of uniformed officers clearly identifying themselves, clearly not home invaders, clearly speaking with the resident, clearly getting across to the resident that they had a warrant/order to serve upon him. After which, he became violent and apparently attempted to fire his gun upon them. Bottom line: knowing it's police, but resisting and firing upon them anyway.

In the OP hypothetical, it's a situation involving inability to know who's making the noises outside, inability to know who's attempting to force entry.

Two completely different scenarios. One, the resident becoming perp, knowing full well he's refusing apparently-lawful commands and actions by uniformed LE; with the other being a likely home invasion by unknown actors.

True, folks ended up injured or dead in both; both occurred at a residence; and both involved police. Residents, of course, have a choice as to whether they are going to fight (or even attempt to murder) uniformed police serving court orders. That's on them.

Police agencies are going to have to decide whether it's in the overall "best" interests to serve such orders on people. But they're going to need a lot of incidents going sideways, I suspect, before determining it's in nobody's best interests to do things that way. The nature of this beast, as not all folks are going to want to comply.
What the choice actually books down to is bowing to unlawful theft and confiscation of ones firearms by gov whim, or defending ones RTKABA when it's directly challanged .

Red Flag is gov confiscation of weapons without due process. If that is not the confiscation most of us have declared many times for a long time has to be resisted , I fail to see what would be. "

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Quote Originally Posted by 21bubba View Post
The difference is you want to make this about RKTBA and Others want to make this about common sense. Should there be a diifference? NO. But in this case there is.

Actually no there isn't . He had a right to do what he did. And even if the statute he's charged with fit what he did, which it clearly does not, the statute itself is unconstitutional.
And the statute does not even mention dress.

He open carried a rifle. Gasp.

The wrong person was charged with having no common sense.

The one who should be charged is the idiot manager that caused the panic when there was none. "

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" Don't think I've ever read of a citizen carrier being charged for shooting a active shooter.

Most if not all states have a good Samaritan law,or lessor of two evils law that protects a person acting in such circumstances.

The gov does not grant rights. Rights prexisted gov. Gov grants,permission. "

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Quote Originally Posted by ccw9mm View Post
Myself, I won't toss a guy under the bus. Not for exercising one's RKBA, and not for acting in a reasonable and responsible manner.

But, no matter what one thinks of the guy or his specific choice of actions, dress or anything else, Missouri law applies while acting within the state of Missouri. And that pesky little law about "threatening manner" is on the books and applies to everyone there, when out in public.

Big lesson for everyone, whatever else the ultimate political fight might be in the long run: Know your state's statutes, codes and ordinances, 'cause they apply to you and your actions just as surely as the Constitution's principles.

I bet the guy wouldn't have been halted or charged at all, had he simply decided not wearing an "armor" (?) vest with ~10 rifle magazines and holding a rifle while entering a store was the best choice. Had he simply had a less-visible way of carrying a couple of mags, worn a light jacket or other dress (not in apparent camo), and had that rifle strapped across his back as though out for a hike, I seriously doubt "the look" would have sent anyone for a loop. Then, too, the choice of a Wal-Mart, dressed like that, was a bit risky given it's just days after a murder spree occurred by someone in a Wal-Mart.

Additional lesson, for anyone desiring to be taken seriously when out in public: Keep your wits about you. Deciding to head into a Wal-Mart heavily armed, with a look that suggested being seemingly "out for bear" ... particularly having discussed this with family prior to attempting it ... none of this speaks well for the man's thinking process. ( Not that that's a crime, of course, but surely he could have considered that in the days following an execution spree at Wal-Mart that someone coming heavily-armed into a Wal-Mart might be taken for what he looks like, instead of what he actually is.)
I understand the idea he shouldn't have went there dressed like he was carrying what he was.

Fact remains. He had a right to do so.

And what he did doesn't fit the statute he was charged with.

His method of carry was non threationing.
How he was dressed isn't even covered in the statute at all.

He made no threatening gestures or verbal threats and there obviously was no panicked exit of patrons or the idiot manager wouldn't have caused a false fire alarm " to get people out of the store" .

If there has been rush to get away from the evil black rifle, there would have been no need to pull the fire alarm to cause people to rush outside.

The manager caused the panic because HE panicked . An humans being humans once the first rush for the door started over that alarm herd mentality took over.

It's highly unlikely that even a third of people in the store even knew the guy with the rifle was there.

The manager is the one who should have been charged along with the firefighter as the only two who actually committed illegal acts. "

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Quote Originally Posted by BMcPhe44 View Post
Voters shape gun restrictions. Always have always will. If the people elect enough Reps who support AR bans, it will happen. There are already enough votes for red flag laws and probably one more mass shooting will get the job done on AR bans. The people are always responsible for the government they have. Voting Democrat will speed it up.

If Kentucky can't get rid of McConnel who seems to be in conjunction with Trump and as we all know is from a State that would never elect a pro-gun control congressman so I would say red flag laws are a done deal and the people are causing it.

https://www.kentucky.com/news/politi...233630997.html
"McConnell suggests Senate could look at assault weapons ban, background checks"

The one thing you can count on is Mitch will do what is good for Mitch.

He barely skimmed by last time because there was only a female Obama running against him.

He also know the little gaggle outside his office are in the tiny minority in this state.

He also knows he may have sunk his own ship with the fix nics fiasco and presiding over ANY new gun regulation will end his career in Ky.

I don't like him but in the end game he knows what state puts him in office.


As for red flag law in ky the same maroon that proposed it last session only to have it totally ignored is the top weed proposing it this time. It'll be ignored again.

Federal red flag , if passed, which I doubt , won't survive the first court challange. "

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" Lot of opinions about the guy ,which is fine . The usual throwing under the bus of any gun owner that doesn't do or not what some don't like. Doesn't matter it's his right, or that it was totally legal.

But the fact remains 1. The law of the land , that pesky constitution, plainly protects his right tobdp what he did. And 2 He factually broke no law in MO either. "

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Ghost1958 replied to the thread Red Flag law scenerio.
" A similar scenario to that has already happened.

DALE, Md. -- Two police officers ordered to remove firearms from a house on a "red flag" protective order fatally shot an armed man Monday morning in Ferndale, Maryland, police said. Anne Arundel County Police arrived at the house at 5:17 a.m. to remove guns from the home under a new law that temporarily allows for the seizure of firearms if a person shows "red flags" that they are a danger to themselves or others, CBS Baltimore reports.

A man, later identified by police as 61-year-old Gary Willis, answered his door with a gun in his hand, Anne Arundel County Police Sgt. Jacklyn Davis said.

Sgt. Davis said the man put the gun down. But then, according to a police press release, Willis "became irate" when officers attempted to serve the order. Willis picked the weapon up again, "a fight ensued over the gun," and a shot was fired, Davis said. The first shot didn't strike anyone, but the officers then fatally shot the man, Sgt. Davis said.


In a lot of states mine included this is going to be a fairly regular iccurance if red flag is passed and LE is,dumb enough to pee in their oath and try to enforce this type of lunacy. "

August 10th, 2019, 04:39 PM   0 Comment(s)   Favourite

Ghost1958 replied to the thread Some more "pro gun" action by Trump..
"
Quote Originally Posted by GRCarry View Post
Nope, I didn't say that. As a reminder, this is what I said: "If the media weren't so rabid on gun control whipping up everyone, then President Trump and House and Senate wouldn't be trying to stay ahead of the carnage of the Second Amendment with some sort of gun control. If we had a neutral news media, things would be a lot better."

That doesn't say a thing positive about his RTKABA position. It merely points out the media's part of all this. You're the one who has moved the subject. I've not said a word on President Trump's position, one way or the other.


I stand corrected.
But if you are willing to answer ,do you believe Trump is pro RTKABA? "

August 10th, 2019, 01:30 PM   0 Comment(s)   Favourite

Ghost1958 replied to the thread A guy walks into a store.
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Quote Originally Posted by 21bubba View Post
Ghost I have a question for you. Would you do what this gentleman did? Taking the current situations into account.
It would be difficult for me as an SKS is the closest thing I own to an AR or AK.

That said. I've carried the SKS several times into stores , resturants etc before I traded off my old 86 truck that,wouldn't lock. Or if I had ridden my motorcycle somplace to shoot or hunt with it slung across,my back.
Nobody batted an eye.

But to directly answer your question , if I felt need or desire to do of course. Totally legal here as you know. NOTHING to be charged for here .


I'm not saying this guy was smart to do what he did. Not saying he's dumb either . He had every right
to do what he did. As to the why he did is none of my business. He had every right to do it though.
I am saying there was no legal grounds,in MO, for him to have been detained, much less arrested.

He had not even been asked to leave. And again, there was no panic until the manager caused one by pulling a firealarm.
The firefighter if I had done this would have either been forced to murder me or get shot himself in SD because he had no reason to pull a firearm on a person doing nothing illegal and LEAVING the store , therefore a deadly threat to the man carrying the rifle. '


Its,fairly obvious by the chiefs comments he's anti OC , probably anti gun as well.

I've read the MO. Statues. The man broke none of them by any stretch of imagination.
The charges will likely be dropped, but should never have been in the first place.


Until gun owners stop being so eager to toss fellow gun owners under the bus for legal acts, we are never going to regain our RTKABA. "

August 10th, 2019, 01:15 PM   0 Comment(s)   Favourite

Ghost1958 replied to the thread Some more "pro gun" action by Trump..
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Quote Originally Posted by GRCarry View Post
Maybe President Trump pays little heed to the press, but a lot of his "friends" in government probably quake in their boots when the press says "Boo." President Trump probably gets influenced more by them and what he has to do to appease them than by the press.

I wish that people would just do what is right and be willing to take the heat for their actions. In the end, it comes out better.
So you believe Trump is pro RTKABA? "

August 10th, 2019, 12:41 PM   0 Comment(s)   Favourite

Ghost1958 replied to the thread A guy walks into a store.
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Quote Originally Posted by ccw9mm View Post
True, no law was broken. At least, apparently so.

But then, the "reasonable man" standards are in the statutes, and they exist as well. They apply to someone's "public" presence and behavior just as surely as other aspect of "the law" do.

Like it or not, at some point, at some level of appearance/demeanor/dress/loadout, it's going to be accepted in the courts that others out in public have every right to say something and to have things checked out. (Roughly equivalent to the concept that "Your right to swing your first is absolute, right up to the point it strikes someone's nose." Yet, there's also the "gray" area that exists because of the "reasonable man" standard, that of the arc and manifest intent being shown in someone swinging a fist, which can easily give a reasonable person concern when done in a certain place, manner, vehemence, etc. Same thing with wearing a heavy loadout with certain demanor in a public place. I've carried a rifle, sidearms and other gear in public. Just not done in a max-loadout manner, in camouflage clothing, etc.)


Can't say I believe the guy broached any legal "crime" statute out there. Yet, it's hard to say that concerned people over the totality of those specific circumstances they witnessed means they have no right or authority to have the situation checked out. Particularly in the week immediately following such massacres, a time during which it's typical to see "copycat" repeats of such stuff.

Bad situation. A "gray" area, because of the "reasonable man" stuff. Somewhat avoidable by the guy himself. I strongly suspect that if he'd simply been carrying a rifle, simply had a non-camo, non-max-loadout arrangement of gear, he likely wouldn't have given anyone pause or concern.

As folks have pointed out, though, we need to be very careful about such distinctions. If it's possible for someone to be concerned about a "max-loadout / camouflage" look to a person, then it's possible for someone to be concerned about mere visibility of the butt-end of a single sidearm tastefully and discreetly carried. (Which we've had problems with, this past 30yrs, as CHL carrying has become more widespread.)


The person who caused the panic run of patrons was the,idiot manager pulling a fire alarm.

Until that act there was no paniced rush of sheep.
A fact that is being carefully avoided by LE and media.

Hate to disagree but there is no reasonable man standard,at play in this instance.

He threatened no one. He broke no law, open carry of a,long gun is legal there.
The gun was not carried in an angry or threatening manner .

He made no threat to anyone, physical or verbal.

The bogus charge the cops out on this guy won't fly And will be dismissed.

The comments of the police chief show the bias against being armed plainly.

The two people who SHOULD be charged are the firefighter who threatened him with a drawn hand gun.
And,the idiot manager that caused the panic by inflating a false alarm and causing a panic. "

August 10th, 2019, 08:25 AM   0 Comment(s)   Favourite

Ghost1958 replied to the thread Some more "pro gun" action by Trump..
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Quote Originally Posted by GRCarry View Post
I didn't say it was right, it's not. I just think it's one reason why it's happening.
Trump pays the media no mind on any other subject. I'm pretty sure the media doesn't influence his outlook on the RTKABA.

Simply look at what he said today. Paraphrasing a bit, he claims to be the strongest 2a supporter there is and call for background checks in the same breath.

It's happening because Trump, is anti RTKABA. Which gives cover to the publicsns who want gun control . "

August 9th, 2019, 10:06 PM   0 Comment(s)   Favourite

Ghost1958 replied to the thread A guy walks into a store.
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Quote Originally Posted by 21bubba View Post
Don't think 3900 people is a big city.

It is compared to the town around here lol.

I know Walton a bit. We did fundraisers for a little boy that was terminal a little south of you in Sparta.

Had to go over some LEOs heads in the area to be able to do the benefit rides. But they got done.

And rode escort at his parents request at his funeral.

Your area is definitely more liberal minded than where I am. "

August 9th, 2019, 09:59 PM   0 Comment(s)   Favourite

Ghost1958 replied to the thread Some more "pro gun" action by Trump..
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Quote Originally Posted by GRCarry View Post
If the media weren't so rabid on gun control whipping up everyone, then President Trump and House and Senate wouldn't be trying to stay ahead of the carnage of the Second Amendment with some sort of gun control. If we had a neutral news media, things would be a lot better.
So now we give up a pre existing right that this gov has no moral or legal authority over, to please the media?
Trump and friends have no authority to make such a trade. "

August 9th, 2019, 03:53 PM   0 Comment(s)   Favourite

Ghost1958 replied to the thread KY: Red-Flag law proposed in KY state legislature.
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Quote Originally Posted by ccw9mm View Post
Perhaps not.

Yarmuth, for example, has been around for an age (since 2007). And so far as I can tell he's been hounding the RKBA since he initially got elected. A firebrand, for destruction of the thing. Yet, the guy's still in office.

There are a few folks in Frankfurt in the state legislature who are whining about the next RKBA-destructive steps to take. Time will tell, whether they survive the next state election for state reps.

Yarmouth is from one of the few districts where sheep have migrated too in Ky. Be is considered a joke by the reps of most ky districts "

August 9th, 2019, 03:41 PM   0 Comment(s)   Favourite

Ghost1958 replied to the thread A guy walks into a store.
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Quote Originally Posted by 21bubba View Post
Admit it.He was doing this as a "Hey look at me" moment and the media and the internet have given him what he wants.
Doesn't matter why he did it. As,far as I can tell he broke no law. End of story. It's not a crime to spook a snowflake Wal-Mart manager . "

August 9th, 2019, 03:32 PM   0 Comment(s)   Favourite

Ghost1958 replied to the thread A guy walks into a store.
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Quote Originally Posted by Arejay View Post
Legal ? Illegal ? Doesn't matter because it's not the point.

Thanks Buddy for pounding another nail into the coffin of my rights. I'd like to know more about this guy. It could be he's even an anti on a mission.
That is exactly the point.

There is no reason he should have been illegally detained because no law was broken.

If one can be arrested doing legal acts then we are already lost. "

August 9th, 2019, 03:29 PM   0 Comment(s)   Favourite

Ghost1958 replied to the thread A guy walks into a store.
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Quote Originally Posted by jeanlouise View Post
Yes, and therein lies the problem of our imperfect world.

If he's stopped and searched he can say it was done illegally and improperly. Maybe he's right.

If he's not stopped and searched, and suddenly begins firing at random...people will want to know why no one stopped him when he was first seen.

It's a no win situation for the cops or any bystander for that matter.
No-one should have stopped him because he had broken no law.

If we are not going to at least TRY to observe the constitutional restrictions on LE , And leave people alone when they are doing nothing illegal, why have a COTUS or laws?

Scaring sheep isn't against the law.

The manager who pulled the,fire,alarm caused the running panic. "

August 9th, 2019, 03:24 PM   0 Comment(s)   Favourite

Ghost1958 replied to the thread A guy walks into a store.
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Quote Originally Posted by 21bubba View Post
Sorry to break your heart. I live in Walton and my people live in Harlan county. I'm as red neck as you get. How's the weather around Lexington?
Ah you live in the big city near cinncinati Florence etc
Wouldn't know know about Lex .

Don't live near it. Backed up in the sticks myself. "

August 9th, 2019, 03:18 PM   0 Comment(s)   Favourite

Ghost1958 replied to the thread A guy walks into a store.
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Quote Originally Posted by 21bubba View Post
Sorry to break your heart. I live in Walton and my people live in Harlan county. I'm as red neck as you get. How's the weather around Lexington?

Wouldn't know. Don't live near,there.

Backed,up in the sticks myself. "

August 9th, 2019, 03:13 PM   0 Comment(s)   Favourite

Ghost1958 created the thread The Clip Draw.
" I was gifted one of the universal Clip Draws several days ago.

I put it on my DiamondBack db9.

Now I know some are going to object the clip draw is unsafe, a ND waiting to happen , etc, so I put these claims to the test.

For those unfamiliar the DB 9 had no safety at all.

No external safety nor even the little Glock like trigger blade . It's simply pull the trigger and bang.

Mine has a trigger pull slightly lighter than a Glock.

Being fond of my leg, I carried the DB9 IWB using only the clip draw with no round in the chamber for several days to see if the trivger could be inadvertently pulled.

Mowed lawn , weed eated, worked on the boat, crawled around,on the ground checking brake shoes, and a bunch of other tasks.


Nothing. The pistol remained quietly resting IWB with no activating of the trigger.

My body on one side and my jeans on the other along with my belt acted as a holster preventing anything from getting to the trigger.

In order for the thing to fire I would have to grow a finger on my hip.

It's a very slim , light , and safe method of carry ,at least for a small pistol like the Db9 as a BUG or if very deep concealment is needed. "

August 4th, 2019, 10:24 PM   0 Comment(s)   Favourite

Ghost1958 created the thread Never get too comfortable.
" With a person even though you've known them well for years.

I made this mistake , luckily my family didn't pay for my mistake this time.

A few years ago, when I was President of GMMCC, I met a young man who was interested in joining .

He was younger by 20 years than me, he rode his own bike, put in the application, did his time hanging around the group, helping out together charity events, and was voted in.

He even stayed at my house for a couple of weeks because, he said, of trouble at home with an uncle.

That was a lie. Actually the guy would rather climb a tree upside down than tell the truth.

Still, he was a decent member, good to do his share etc.

He carried a revolver, but I thought nothing of that as almost every member did and does , as well as the general public here.

At no time did he ever show a temper, even when caught in one of his many tall tales.

I saw him almost daily for two years.
Absolutely , I would have bet , a particularly non violent person , even when pushed.
I wouldn't have trusted him to have my back , but saw no danger in him.

Long story shortened , he met a girl , got married dropped his patch and resigned .
That was four years ago.



A few months ago , the man I let crash at our house, shot and killed his wife's 80 yr old grandpa, who he and his wife lived with, in front of her and the old man's wife as he sat in his chair.

Arrested and charged with murder, a few weeks ago he was charged with attempting to hire the troopers who arrested him, and the old man's wife ,killed.

I knew, rode with, and worked side by side with this cat for several years in GMMCC. Heck we even shot together several times. Never saw the first hint of any danger to him.

Just goes to show, there's no knowing of predicting what an individual may do. "

July 25th, 2019, 09:45 PM   0 Comment(s)   Favourite

Ghost1958 created the thread The Batmobile.
" Not really but close.
For about a month id been driving a friend to see his wife at UK hospital , using his car.

We went everyday came back every nite until she passed.

His car is a Caddilac equipped with SUPER Cruise.
Which means when set the car is totally self driving.
Steers itself, slows for slower vehicles in front of it, slows for curves blends in with traffic speed etc.

It also flashed pedestrian warnings if some is walking across the road in front of it.

Equipped with thermal night vision that allows you to see deer , people, dogs etc from up to over a mile away.
If the driver begins to nod off the seat shakes, red lights flash and a voice warns that super cruise will be disengaged. Same if the driver looks away from the road for to long.

It is limited to interstates.

The one I was driving would also disengage if the sun shown thru the drivers window at just the right angle to blind the small sensor that watched the driver.

All in all a pretty amazing car to drive, ehhhh, or sit and watch drive itself lol. "

July 19th, 2019, 09:55 AM   0 Comment(s)   Favourite

Ghost1958 created the thread This begining to be a tiny bit frightening..
" Trump announced their would be tanks at the Independence Day celebration.
"The new Abrams tank and the NEW Sherman Tank.
New Sherman tank? Sherman's are WW2 tanks.



Then he makes this grand declaration during the celebration speaking of our revolution against Brits and our soldiers actions to win that war.
Trump
"“Our army manned the air, it rammed the ramparts, it took over the airports, it did everything it had to do ..." .

Took over the Airports? "

July 5th, 2019, 07:06 PM   0 Comment(s)   Favourite

Ghost1958 created the thread Some more "pro gun" action by Trump..
" Yep he's pro gun alright.
So far he hasn't seen a anti 2a idea he down like.

If someone else doesn't come up with you can depend on him too.

Banned bump stocks now looking into banning silencers.

https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/a...ncers-jwixwla2 "

June 5th, 2019, 09:38 PM   0 Comment(s)   Favourite

Ghost1958 created the thread Do you want restrictions on your RTKABA?.
" I've grown curious over time as on every gun forum there are always a few that will argue for restrictions on the RTKABA. Even though the 2A prohibits any.

Hence the musical question, understanding that any restrictions could in the future apply to you, do you honestly want your RTKABA restricted ,or eliminated? "

May 25th, 2019, 11:16 AM   0 Comment(s)   Favourite

Ghost1958 created the thread 25 yard and up club..
" Some time ago I think PEF started a similar thread that ran for a good while on another forum I think.

Anyway. This thread is for shooting attempts ,off hand , no warmup, at distances of 25yrds min.

I'll start. This was about an hour ago , SR9c , Seller Beloit 115 gr fmj.
Target is based on FBI new smaller bottle target.

10 rds fired off hand , cold,. 7 hits of 10 fired.

Attachment 22111

Hope this thread catches on. SD situations don't always happen at 7 yards. "

May 16th, 2019, 07:45 PM   0 Comment(s)   Favourite

Ghost1958 created the thread Name anyplace in the U. S. where citizens have the RTKABA.
" Totally serious request. The NRA, GOA, etc and tons of gun owners constantly speak of defending the 2A and the RTKABA.

Name a place in this nation where the RTKABA exists. "

April 17th, 2019, 10:23 PM   0 Comment(s)   Favourite

Ghost1958 created the thread This case should be dropped..
" Actually should never have been charged.

If someone shoots at you, LE or not, you have the right to fire back.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.owe...-shooting/amp/ "

April 13th, 2019, 12:33 AM   0 Comment(s)   Favourite

Ghost1958 created the thread Been retraining a skill I'd abandoned..
" Years ago I was taught the CAR [center axis relock] form of pistol tactics.

Over the years I gradually just stopped using it or practicing it. My need to clear buildings etc was over and I frankly got lazy 8 guess.

Now I know some will boo hiss at CAR.
And it's not the be all end all for all situations. Or even most. But it at least to me is worth my resharpening as a skill for close quarters and speed.

No room to go into the actual technique here but JMO any skill that allows 3 shot groups at speed that I can cover with my thump at 10 yrds while keeping my pistol close to me and quick multiple target aquistion is probably worth my repracticing again as I age. "

April 12th, 2019, 06:40 PM   0 Comment(s)   Favourite

Ghost1958 created the thread Barretta Spanish 1911 ?.
" Need a quick answer if possible.

My son is Being offered a so called Beretta Spanish 1911?

Never heard of one.

I'm thinking it's probably a Star the guy is making sound fancy.

Anybody ever heard of one. "

April 9th, 2019, 04:11 PM   0 Comment(s)   Favourite

Ghost1958 created the thread All sheriff's in all states should do this concerning all gun regs.
" Officers willing to honor their oath are rare as unicorns. Much less to this level.

If they would there would be no gun control in short order.

https://news.google.com/articles/CAI...S&ceid=US%3Aen "

March 31st, 2019, 03:20 PM   0 Comment(s)   Favourite

Ghost1958 created the thread Prayer badly needed..
" Right now I'm sitting with a very good friend in ICU.

10 days ago he and his wife had a car crash.

He is able to get around some. I've been driving him back and forth to the hospital for 10 days.

She is at this moment fighting for her life.

Please pray for Carolyn. She and her husband are kind, Christian people.

Docs are doing all they can. But not offering much hope.

Thank you all. Phil "

March 11th, 2019, 06:49 PM   0 Comment(s)   Favourite

Ghost1958 created the thread Bad Ky Campus Carry Bill being snuck thru..
" I do not have the number as the proponents are hush hush.

Bottom line the bill would make campus carry OC, legal by statute.

Which would be fine except to do that a ky ccdw permit would be required .

Short and sweet.
Any bill that requires a permit to OC anywhere violates the Ky constitution .
The General Assembly is granted only authority to prevent CC . That's it and that's all.

Any permit requirement to OC anywhere in ky is outside the scope of legislative power.

The bill is an attempt to do an end run around the ky constitution and attempt to set precedence of permitting OC .

I urge every ky gun owner to call their reps and remind them they have no constitutional authority to pass such a requirement for OC in ky.

Thanks. "

March 2nd, 2019, 05:49 PM   0 Comment(s)   Favourite

Ghost1958 created the thread KY permitless carry bill passes House goes to Gov..
" KY permitless concealed carry passed the house and heads for Gov Bivens desk.

I do not THINK any of the proposed amendments were adopted.

Remember, you can thank a handful of Dems and 2 Republicans almost all from Jefferson county district for doing their best to derail the bill with junk amendments.

And the KY Fraternal Order of police and Louisville Metro PD for opposing the bill "

March 1st, 2019, 03:14 PM   0 Comment(s)   Favourite

Ghost1958 created the thread Ky permitless carry 2019 being screwed up..
" Three amendments are being filed in the house to the bill.

Together they amount to a ccdw that is only good in KY and still the need to carry a training certification.

Call your reps and demand they pass the senate version unaltered or kill the bill.

It will be heard Wed.

Thanks "

February 23rd, 2019, 06:33 PM   0 Comment(s)   Favourite

Ghost1958 created the thread Lot of gun bills being proposed in KY..
" One very good one and several "pro gun " bills being put forth by republicans who are either wolves in sheep's clothing or simply ignorant.

One example is the campus carry bill.
Another is the bill I posted put forth by Rep Goforth .

IMHO any bill proposed in KY that requires a permit to OC ANYWHERE should be opposed.

OC has needed nothing since statehood.
The KY constitution gives no authority to the general assembly to regulate OC in anyway.

Any bill like the campus carry bill, or Goforths bill that makes a permit nessacary to carry openly at any location in this state is an end run around the KY constitution and an effort to set precedence that the atate can regulate OC by requiring a permit.

These bills sound great until one reads them enough to see the connection being made.

Read these proposed bills carefully.

The only one I've seen so far that's a honest to goodness pro gun bill is the "constitutional carry "bill that repeals the requirement for concealed carry permits in KY. "

February 13th, 2019, 10:02 PM   0 Comment(s)   Favourite

Ghost1958 created the thread Help, stumped Marlin mod 60 22 rifle won't fire..
" Help! Lol.

I've taken a friends Marlin model 60/99 22 rifle to repair and I'm stumped.

He took it apart to clean it, removed the action and it fell apart. He put it back in but had pieces reversed etc.

I brought it home put everything back in correctly but it still has a problem.

It feeds, ejects, fine. Pulling the bolt cocks the hammer. And I can trip it to fire by gentle pressure with my finger on the sear.

However when I put the stock back on it acts like the trigger isn't touching anything. Won't reset, nor trip the hammer. Just pulls and nothing.

I have noticed if I pull it very hard with the stock on but the mounting screws not in pulling the trigger hard seems to move the action barrel assembly forward a tiny bit.

So I lay this maddening problem here at the source of all firearm wisdom. "

February 12th, 2019, 08:59 AM   0 Comment(s)   Favourite

Ghost1958 created the thread KY constitutional carry bill introduced 2019.
" I've read all 7 pages of the bill.
It's a NRA sponsored bill, but they seem to have learned their lesson from the last time around as there is no FOL signage or expanded no carry zones in this bill.
Basically it's the long way around the barn to say permitless CC legal anywhere open carry is.

Link to the bill.

https://apps.legislature.ky.gov/reco.../orig_bill.pdf "

February 11th, 2019, 09:56 PM   0 Comment(s)   Favourite