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    Questions about Fiocchi ammo and LAXammo as supplier

    I've done as much research as I can regarding LAXammunition out of California. it is www.laxammo.com I can't find any recent reviews of their service/reliability and need to know if anyone has ordered from them within the last year. I sent them an email question and received a response within hours, so that was one point in their favor.

    They have a flat rate shipping charge of $12.50 for orders over $150 and my order would be well over that. Their flat rate shipping is sent UPS ground, according to the reply I received from them.

    Next question is about Fiocchi .380 ammo, which is what I would buy if I ordered from LAX. Has anyone used Fiocchi .380 and if so in which brand/model guns? This will be range ammo for me. I'm set for SD carry ammo for quite a while, even with shooting a magazine of it from time to time.

    Again, from what I read, it seems that it is on par with S&B, running a bit on the hot side like a lot of European ammo. My Glocks like S&B a lot. My SIG P238's like almost anything - so far. I do not shoot steel or aluminum cased or reloads.

    Feedback from anyone who has answers to my questions will be greatly appreciated!

    It looks to me like ammo is currently at about the best prices it is going to be and the price of metal is increasing so the price of ammo might well go up also. I want to be sure I'm well stocked since I HOPE to get more range time in this year.
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    We have some Fiocchi ammo, it seems fine, including .380 for the wife's G42.
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    I used some Fiocchi 9mm Mak and have no complaints.
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    I've used Fiocchi .380 rounds, probably 1000 rounds thru a variety of pistols. Good quality ammo that goes bang. My Glock 42 didn't like it but that Glock was a picky thing. Sold it a long time ago.
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    I just placed the order for a case of Fiocchi .380 from LAX ammunition, based on these comments plus several positive ones from another forum, added to the on line research I had already done.

    The price per round including their flat rate shipping is 22.25 cents. Considering that the last bulk order i got was about 2 cents a round higher than that, and also that when I first got my Glock 42 the .380 ammo was 31 cents a round if and when you could find any, I feel pretty good about this price.

    Of course I will feel better when the package arrives, hopefully in good condition. I will try to remember to post a report on delivery time, etc. It is coming by UPS with the LAX flat rate shipping charge. I'm not expecting it to arrive until next week because their web says 3 to 5 days until they actually ship - then add probably 4 or 5 days in transit from California.

    It won't be in time for the first summer session of the new Ladies' shooting group at our club, but will give me a good excuse to make one more range trip!
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    I've run quite a bit of the Fiocchi .380 in both my LCP and my G42 with no problems.

    Not all Fiocchi ammo is of the same quality. Some of their rifle calibers have had some issues with being weak and causing cycling issues, but Fiocchi isn't one factory. Different types of their ammo are made in different countries so I guess it could be a QC thing in a certain factory. Their .380 seems good to go.

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    I've rarely used the Fiocchi brand ammo. Frankly, I haven't used it enough to say whether it's the ammo or the sidearms, in my case, which caused the comparative unreliability.

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    So far as I recall, I can't remember ever having used the FMJ Fiocchi rounds, but I have tried some of the JHP. In my experience, it didn't turn out to be the most reliable of ammo, but that could easily have been due to the relative newness of the sidearms I was trying the ammo on. These were the NAA Guardian 380, and Kel-Tec P3AT 380.

    Generally, I seriously question a sidearm's ability to be dead-nuts reliable with specific ammo until I've shot the snot out of a gun with that specific ammo. I've had far too many instances of guns that end up reliable with some ammo but horribly awful with another. In the case of the Fiocchi stuff, little as I used it, I suspected at the time it was due to the sharp nature of the angles/edges of the "cone" of the JHP bullet itself. As compare to, say, the Remington Golden Saber, which has a much more curved and smooth JHP.

    I suppose I don't have anything against the Fiocchi ammo, as I've not had much experience with it beyond a couple 50rd boxes. Not enough to make a solid judgment either way.
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    For clarification - all of my Fiocchi .380 ammo has been FMJ and it has been flawless.

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    I've done as much research as I can regarding LAXammunition out of California. it is www.laxammo.com I can't find any recent reviews of their service/reliability and need to know if anyone has ordered from them within the last year. I sent them an email question and received a response within hours, so that was one point in their favor.

    They have a flat rate shipping charge of $12.50 for orders over $150 and my order would be well over that. Their flat rate shipping is sent UPS ground, according to the reply I received from them.

    Next question is about Fiocchi .380 ammo, which is what I would buy if I ordered from LAX. Has anyone used Fiocchi .380 and if so in which brand/model guns? This will be range ammo for me. I'm set for SD carry ammo for quite a while, even with shooting a magazine of it from time to time.

    Again, from what I read, it seems that it is on par with S&B, running a bit on the hot side like a lot of European ammo. My Glocks like S&B a lot. My SIG P238's like almost anything - so far. I do not shoot steel or aluminum cased or reloads.

    Feedback from anyone who has answers to my questions will be greatly appreciated!

    It looks to me like ammo is currently at about the best prices it is going to be and the price of metal is increasing so the price of ammo might well go up also. I want to be sure I'm well stocked since I HOPE to get more range time in this year.
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    LAX order arrived today May 22

    The ammo order arrived today via UPS in excellent condition. Have not been able to shoot it yet, but will do as soon as possible.

    Very good service from LAX and the best price I've seen on brass case FMJ .380 anywhere, ever. Shipping at their "flat rate", UPS ground service, was only $12.50 and you can't beat that either. Price per round including shipping was 22.25 cents.

    It is interesting that other web sites selling Fiocchi .380 are charging as much as .30 a round - no one else has it for less than 24 cents a round. I hope my guns like the stuff!
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    Mostly OK - one glitch

    I shot 100 rounds through both of my G42's and both of my P238's. The Glocks ate it like candy, as did the SIG Scorpion. However the Rainbow locked back after every 3rd or 4th round using the same magazines as I did when shooting the Scorpion.

    I also shot a few magazines of Aguila through the Rainbow with no hitches or glitches.

    Gramps noticed that the Fiocchi seems to run a bit on the hot side - like S&B maybe? He was watching the amount of muzzle flip.

    I had to quit, partly because that's all the ammo I had with me, and partly because that is more than enough shooting for one session for my hands.

    I strongly suspect the problem is that I wear shooting gloves and the beautiful wood grip panels on the Rainbow are just smooth enough that the hotter rounds kept my grip from being as tight as it needed to be and caused something akin to a limp wristing issue. The G10 grip panels on the Scorpion are very aggressive, to the point where I would not want to shoot it much at all without the gloves on. ALTHOUGH there have been many times in the past that I knew I didn't have a really proper grip on the Scorpion and she just went on going bang, bang, bang.

    I need to go back to the range with my regular range ammo, and some S&B and some more Fiocchi.

    With only one shooting hand left that can function, I am not going to push the issue. If necessary, I'll just keep track of what I shoot through the rainbow and make sure it is not Fiocchi. The copper coating on the bullets is a noticeably lighter color than on the other brands of range ammo I have, so it will be easy to keep track if I'm shooting several guns and several kinds of ammo. IF I pay attention!

    The engineer in me isn't going to be happy until I understand what caused that problem.

    One thing I learned: Just because you have two guns that are supposedly the same it does not mean that any given ammo will work well in both of them! The only difference in those 2 SIG's is the grip panels. (Well, other than the gorgeous rainbow titanium finish on the slide compared to the FDE color of the Scorpion )

    When I figure it out I'll post again.
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    It IS the glove!

    First day without rain for well over a week and Gramps took me to the range today to test my "it's the glove" theory.

    I am very happy to report that yes, indeed, it is the shooting glove with the smooth leather palm. Not so much the smooth leather, as that combined with the fact that when I put the glove on as firmly as it will go, there is still about 1/2 inch gap between the web of my hand and the "web" of the leather on the glove, which leaves wiggle room for that smoother wood grip on the Rainbow.

    I shot 39 rounds of the Fiocchi with my P.A.S.T. fingerless shooting glove which fits "like a glove" with nary a hitch of any kind. In the middle of that I changed to the full glove and after just two rounds the slice locked back! Put the P.A.S.T. glove back on and resumed shooting with no problems.

    Total of only 41 rounds today and I stopped because the purpose of this trip was to test my glove theory. Also, shooting with the fingerless glove made me change my grip so that my thumbs point up instead of straight forward because if I point them forward the fingernail of my shooting finger gouges a hole in the thumb of my right hand. Did that a couple times before I got the full coverage gloves, and it's not much fun. Also, not having my trigger finger covered with the full glove left me with a sore finger and first joint of same finger. So it was time to quit.

    We do not have really good sporting goods stores in our area with a wide selection of shooting gloves that I could try on before buying, so not sure if I want to order another pair or two of full coverage gloves to find one that actually does fit my hand properly or not. Most shooting gloves are made for men and that complicates things even more.

    The Rainbow is a Barbecue gun, not an every day carry gun, and hopefully if I'm at a nice social event wearing her I won't have to use her. But if I do have to it will be without a glove of any kind. I didn't shoot without a glove today but need to do that for at least one magazine, but I'm so leary of harming my left hand and not being able to shoot at all that I hesitate to shoot even one magazine without a glove on. Might or might not do it anyway.

    So, that's my maybe final report about the Fiocchi ammo. It is good stuff and does run a bit hot. I have not compared it for accuracy with the S&B fmj or with my two brands of hollow point SD ammo, but even not shooting slowly for accuracy only 6 shots were outside of the 8 ring. All the rest were within a 3" x 3" square area - good enough for self defense in my book.
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    I've used Fiocchi in a 9mm Springfield Xd. It is a little hotter, but nothing serious. I would think it would be fine in 380. Besides, it's Italian. Definitely couldn't be bad.
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    Maybe the Rainbow is prejudice or maybe unconsciously prejudice against Italians.
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    Thanks for the review and updates!
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