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    The best handgun caliber for what?

    When I put the chickens to bed every night I have a .22 LR on my hip for any four legged critters in the barn.

    9mm gets me a good concealable small pistol for NY's 10 round limit and an EDC.

    .45 ACP 1911 in the nightstand.

    .38 Spl in a M14 S&W with mid-range wadcutters lets me hunt for bunnies and squirrels out to 25 yards and past.

    A .44 Mag as a back-up pistol when hunting for a coup-de-merci or even a primary hunting pistol.

    It's good to have choices.
    You have way too many guns.....wait!!! What did I just say?????

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    No I did not watch the video. I sure nothing is brought out that hasn't been already.

    Size matters, unless you don't have it.

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    And then there is the other factor - non caliber specific: How well do you aim?
    That, too.

    I dearly love the .44mag cartridge, for example. But I'm vastly more accurate with a "hot" 9mm load, by comparison. And given that the average "big" 9mm has roughly ~twice the number of .44 cartridges in the magazine, that pretty much seals it for me.
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    No I did not watch the video. I sure nothing is brought out that hasn't been already.

    Size matters, unless you don't have it.
    He also talked about speed.
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    Pretty charts.

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    2006 Dodge. 5.9 Cummings. 610 lb-ft @ 1,600 rpm. Plenty of destructive Ram power.
    Besides Ram power I'll have either 9mm jhp or .38+P in a six shot revolver
    My old Ford F 250 7.3 Turbo was over 350 hp with over 900 lbs .

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    Clearly the take away from most of these questions is that the best gun to have is one with you when you need it - whatever style and caliber.

    Beats the one at home in the safe hands down every time.
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    So much depends on the experience and skill level of the person. I am perfectly happy with my EDC...BHP 9MM with 124 gr. Hornady XTP's or Federal HST's. I've carried that for years on and off the job, fired it under stress, and go to the range enough to maintain my skills. I will at least double-tap (you should, too), and there are plenty more where those two came from. But, when I go cycling, I often just carry a Browning 1911 .22 in a clip on holster. It is not a man-stopper, but two or three to COM will certainly get his attention. Ruger SP101 .357 2 1/4 inch in truck safe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SatCong View Post
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    My old Ford F 250 7.3 Turbo was over 350 hp with over 900 lbs .
    Saw one of those, in pristine condition, just the other day, as I recall. Strong power, fairly quick acceleration. I'd figured the guy must have had post-delivery work done to the engine, but perhaps not. Blew past me like I was standing still (@ 30mph and accelerating). Nice truck. A bit much for summer, but I bet it's a brute during winter and off-roading, or while towing.

    Moral of the story: right tool for the job.
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    Wow!

    Something uglier than a Glock!
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    The Best Handgun Caliber
    Ah, yes. The eternal question.

    I'm generally of the "bigger is better" frame of mind. As in 45acp > 25acp.

    That said, I definitely think shot placement > than whatever caliber.

    I carry 38+P about 98% of the time.

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    Let's see if I can summarize the video's conclusions to the data. Corrections welcome where you disagree.
    Bigger is better.
    Faster is better than slower.
    Bigger and faster together are better than either one alone.
    And, I don't recall it saying, but on target is better than off target.
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    For a old man, it's got to be a 230 grain coming out of a 1911, and I do know it works very well.

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    I saw the OP's vid before and just came across it again on youtube yesterday.

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    Chevy or Ford?

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    And then there is the other factor - non caliber specific: How well do you aim?
    ^^^^^The question should be^^^^

    how well do you aim while fearing for your life in an altercation with people who may wish you death? I will take a poor hit with my .357SIG over a poor hit with a .380/.38Spl./or smaller caliber while running for
    the tall grass or subjects running/moving in a fluid situation. It will invariably be more devastating to the lead recipient that one from a lesser caliber.

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    I'm confused. Did you watch the posted video ? It wasn't about the size of the dog. It was about how well the bark of all the different breeds stopped the threat.
    He found that with the exception of the most smallest breeds of dogs the effectiveness of one stop barks across all the breeds barking weren't to far off from each other.
    Of course he talks about multiple barking and one stop barks. For instance he thinks it's hard to tell if a bigger breeds bark was effective at one bark or if it was one of the other barks barked in succession that stopped the threat. Since the larger breed is barking so fast it's hard to tell if the first bark stopped the threat or if it was one of the other multiple barks from the larger breed that stopped the threat. He believes it's entirely possible the larger breeds first bark stopped the threat since the bark is so loud and mean compared to the other barks. His data just couldn't definitively show those results because of all the rapid barking going on when the barkings took place.

    It's an interesting video and what I got out of it is the importance of being able to bark. Even if I only bark once it could be enough to stop the threat. Ruff, Ruff
    ^^^^^^You've mistaken Bark for Bite^^^^^^^^

    While I do not want to be bitten by anything, the bite from my 140lb + Great Pyrenees(or like sized dog) will be far more incapacitating than a bite from someones Chihuahua or Yorkie.

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    Clearly the take away from most of these questions is that the best gun to have is one with you when you need it - whatever style and caliber.

    Beats the one at home in the safe hands down every time.
    ^^^^Until it isn't^^^^^^^^

    I agree with you, in that you will need a firearm in a life or death situation. Anyone who carries will carry instead of leaving it at home I would hope. Anyone who can, and leaves it at home is kidding themselves.

    The only time I compromise and carry a .38 is when dressed up in a suit at a wedding or funeral. That is the lowest I will go. When you have 3-5+ perps all itching for lead, the last thing you need to do is be thinking about a reload, or only giving them one dose.

    I would submit this for your review, and it will explain why I carry .357SIG, and have for many years. YMMV!!!! CAUTION, HE DROPS A COUPLE f- BOMBS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7bBQHeT8BY
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