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    Iran: op-ed perspectives on the situation

    Iran tensions -- Trump still cleaning up Obama's mess (but Democrats won't admit it) @ Fox News, 22 June 2019.

    An opinion piece about the situation in the Persian Gulf area involving Iran. From the perspective that the ongoing challenges are part of a long-term "clean-up" of the former administration's problematic "solutions."

    Excerpt:

    While Democrats in Washington and much of the news media spend their time obsessing over the 2020 campaign and telling the world that our president is everything from being mentally unfit to a criminal, Trump has been dealing with a host of major foreign policy challenges either created or ignored by the Obama administration.

    The ISIS takeover of Iraq and its infiltration across more than a dozen countries ... China’s unchecked economic and military advances ... Africa ... cyber espionage ... Libya ...

    But Obama’s sweetheart deal with Iran is perhaps the thorniest of them all.

    Critics would rather bash Trump than acknowledge Obama’s naïve strategy of Iranian appeasement was a failure.

    For all the claims by the left that Trump is irrational, he understands that you can only bargain with rational actors. Iran doesn’t fit the bill.

    Trump made clear this week that he’s willing to play hardball with Iran if they continue on their current trajectory. Calling off the strike just minutes before execution wasn’t indecision. It was a calculated move meant to send a message that the U.S. will not be intimidated back into negotiations by a radical Islamist government with a history of aggression.

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    Another opinion piece on the Iran situation.

    Iran and Trump – Here’s What’s Really Going On @ The Heritage Institute, 20 June 2019.

    Excerpt:

    There are wars and rumors of war. And then there is Trump’s policy toward Iran, which fuels endless speculation.

    Despite much public handwringing over the announcement that the Pentagon is sending an additional 1,000 troops to the Gulf region, there are no signs the U.S. plans to escalate the stand-off with Tehran.

    I spent 25 years in the Army, but it doesn’t take a military career and a war college diploma to deconstruct what is going on.

    Let’s start with numbers. A thousand troops do not an invasion force make. Even counting the additional troops deployed last month on the strength of intelligence concerning an Iranian threat to shipping and (potentially) U.S. forces and assets in the Middle East, the number of U.S. boots on the ground are far too small to suggest a build-up for any major offensive action.

    Now, let’s look at the kind and scale of troops being sent. They are completely consistent with what is required for “force protection”—defending U.S. forces in the region, as well as policing the Hormuz against malicious attacks on shipping.

    Next, let’s consider the source. The reinforcements are being sent at the request of Central Command (CENTCOM), based on an assessment of what the commanders on the ground think they need. These are not troop dispatched from the White House to ratchet up the pressure on Iran.

    Finally, let’s step back for a broader view. From a distance, the U.S. posture in the Middle East looks pretty steady. The Pentagon has modestly beefed up its capacity to: safeguard U.S. forces already there; preserve freedom of operation on the seas; and respond to any threats. The last-mentioned item would include, if necessary, conducting proportional punitive strikes against anyone threatening the shipping lanes.

    And while we’re taking in that broader view, let’s turn our eyes on Iran. From what we can tell, it hasn’t introduced any game-changers either. The regime continues to deny it’s up to anything in the straits. While it did announce plans to increase its uranium enrichment activities and exceed agreed-upon restrictions on its stockpiles of enriched uranium, it has not completely abrogated its commitments. Moreover, Iran’s enrichment activities fall far short of what they’d doing if they were sprinting to a nuclear breakout.

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    Iran and America are headed for a showdown. And no, it’s not Trump’s fault @ Fox News, 7 July 2019.

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    While national security experts will debate the merits of the Iran nuclear deal negotiated by the Obama administration for years to come, one thing is clear: the pact always ensured Washington and Tehran were headed towards a nuclear crisis. The only question was when it would happen—not if.

    And none of that is President Trump’s fault. In fact, we can thank President Obama for this growing international crisis – one that could even balloon into a shooting war.

    The devil is in the details of the deal itself. How it was structured, and the items that were omitted ...

    Unfortunately, this is where the good news ends, in large part because the agreement itself has several massive problems that turn it from a historic and transformative accord into a giant band-aid that ensures a crisis, sooner or later.

    For starters, the deal clearly leaves intact large sections of Iran’s civilian nuclear program—with the ability to still enrich nuclear fuel—intact. While credit should be given for the large restrictions put in place by Obama’s negotiating team, the problem is never truly eliminated, just scaled back.

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    One cannot negotiate with a rabid dog.
    All that can be done is destroy it.

    Something I fear this nation no longer has the resolve to do.

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    Iran & Iraq present knarly problems on several fronts.

    While I agree with the op/ed piece Obama exacerbated and/or accelerated the growing threat; such a flash point was predicted over 6,000 yrs ago.

    I encourage all who have not had the opportunity, to study historically that region of the earth where Noah had (4) sons, Shem
    Japheth, Ham and Yam and their descendants,Gomer, Magog, Tiras, Javan, Meshech, Tubal, and Madai.

    This ^^^ chronological study does not simply fit into the Christians view of what is to come, it fits with a precision of timing that can only be considered miraculous; beyond the mind of a man to predict such things that have followed thru the ages.
    Two sons in particular went their separate ways, where the kingdoms eventually divided and were at odds with each other.

    Even unbelievers after such a historical study, taken not only from the bible, but other sources, will find it difficult to walk away without at least a "hmm?, this is amazing!"

    The United States is less than 300 yrs old as a society, the mid east culture is in the thousands! WE can not possibly as Americans relate to or understand their thinking; our lens does not see that far. As hard as we try, the mid east culture can not, does not and will not fit into a westernized view in analysis.

    I hope no one feels I am hijacking this thread.
    My intent was to explain where all other logical understanding fails to explain the continual non-stop fighting in that part of the world; their desire to rule to the earth that has not stopped since Noah's two sons went their separate ways.

    I offer no new insights; I possess no special wisdom; only a simple ability to see the changing of the seasons predicted with amazing precision thousands of yrs ago.

    Concerning Donald Trump's interaction with the mid east process.
    I assign to him no special ability; rather a player on a stage that was set long ago.
    His election IMO was nothing short of miraculous.

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    Iran has severe internal problems. As in "afraid of violent change of government" problems. So they're trying to get the populace to stand together against a common foe.

    It's an old, old tactic. Often works, too.

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    Let's see... The UK takes an Iranian tanker because it is taking crude to Syria.

    So Iran takes a British tanker for going the wrong direction (in the wrong lane) in the Strait of Hormuz.

    And this is somehow A US matter (Trump's fault). What am I missing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RightsEroding View Post
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    Iran & Iraq present knarly problems on several fronts.

    While I agree with the op/ed piece Obama exacerbated and/or accelerated the growing threat; such a flash point was predicted over 6,000 yrs ago.

    I encourage all who have not had the opportunity, to study historically that region of the earth where Noah had (4) sons, Shem
    Japheth, Ham and Yam and their descendants,Gomer, Magog, Tiras, Javan, Meshech, Tubal, and Madai.

    This ^^^ chronological study does not simply fit into the Christians view of what is to come, it fits with a precision of timing that can only be considered miraculous; beyond the mind of a man to predict such things that have followed thru the ages.
    Two sons in particular went their separate ways, where the kingdoms eventually divided and were at odds with each other.

    Even unbelievers after such a historical study, taken not only from the bible, but other sources, will find it difficult to walk away without at least a "hmm?, this is amazing!"

    The United States is less than 300 yrs old as a society, the mid east culture is in the thousands! WE can not possibly as Americans relate to or understand their thinking; our lens does not see that far. As hard as we try, the mid east culture can not, does not and will not fit into a westernized view in analysis.

    I hope no one feels I am hijacking this thread.
    My intent was to explain where all other logical understanding fails to explain the continual non-stop fighting in that part of the world; their desire to rule to the earth that has not stopped since Noah's two sons went their separate ways.

    I offer no new insights; I possess no special wisdom; only a simple ability to see the changing of the seasons predicted with amazing precision thousands of yrs ago.

    Concerning Donald Trump's interaction with the mid east process.
    I assign to him no special ability; rather a player on a stage that was set long ago.
    His election IMO was nothing short of miraculous.
    It is coming. So few know, let alone prepare. America will play no part in the final chapters. None. The time of the gentiles is almost fulfilled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DogWalksWithMe View Post
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    Let's see... The UK takes an Iranian tanker because it is taking crude to Syria.

    So Iran takes a British tanker for going the wrong direction (in the wrong lane) in the Strait of Hormuz.

    And this is somehow A US matter (Trump's fault). What am I missing?
    1) It's always Trump's fault. 2) Trump is making enemies of our enemies. That is, he's not letting any of our enemies steam roll us. And that's wrong. Give peace a chance. If we just submit and encourage everyone else to submit, life will be roses. 3) If all else fails, refer to #1 because Trump is evil for some reason we haven't found yet.
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