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    They are separate issues. The counter argument you are presenting is a variation on but Jimmy is allowed to.... I'm speaking to the specific situation where a national Olympic athlete trashed and disrespected the national anthem of his home country during an overseas competition. Not only is that classless and spoiled, its treasonous in my opinion.
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    Ali threw his gold medal into the Ohio river.

    Granted that was different as it wasn't AT thecolympics. Then there were the three runners ,who gave the black power salute when getting their medals.

    This guy isn't the first to do such an action.
    Nothing was done before , probably nothing will be done again.

    Probably the next to do the kneel will be the U.S. curling team.

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    They gave him a slap on the wrist IMO

    US fencer punished for kneeling on podium at Pan Am Games, other athletes warned

    Two U.S. athletes were given a year of probation by the U.S. Olympic and Paralympic Committee (USOPC) for staging protests while on the podium at the Pan American Games earlier this month, letters sent Tuesday revealed.
    Both athletes are eligible for the Olympics next year in Tokyo
    "We recognize that we must more clearly define for Team USA athletes what a breach of these rules will mean in the future," Hirshland wrote. "Working with the (athletes and national governing body councils), we are committed to more explicitly defining what the consequences will be for members of Team USA who protest at future Games."

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    Far too lenient. He should have been banned from Tokyo next year.

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    Far too lenient. He should have been banned from Tokyo next year.
    I agree 100 percent since they already broke a rule. But I still think it is OK that they do not get tried for treason or have their citizenship stripped awy

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    Doesn't surprise me.

    Particularly if, at present, there's no clear policy and conduct "agreement" for participants on the U.S. Olympic team, then I agree with a relatively light correction.

    If, though, such a policy for conduct does exist, then a "slap on the wrist" would (at least IMO) a miscarriage of justice.

    In future, hopefully a clear guideline will exist that all members of the team (staff, coaches, athletes and everyone else) must abide by, else being sanctioned by the team's governing body would kick in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ccw9mm View Post
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    Doesn't surprise me.

    Particularly if, at present, there's no clear policy and conduct "agreement" for participants on the U.S. Olympic team, then I agree with a relatively light correction.

    If, though, such a policy for conduct does exist, then a "slap on the wrist" would (at least IMO) a miscarriage of justice.

    In future, hopefully a clear guideline will exist that all members of the team (staff, coaches, athletes and everyone else) must abide by, else being sanctioned by the team's governing body would kick in.
    In the linked article provided by the OP Mark Jones, Vice President of Communications, USOPC is clearly quoted as saying
    The political protest could lead to disciplinary action by the U.S. Olympic and Paralympic Committee.

    “Every athlete competing at the 2019 Pan American Games commits to terms of eligibility, including to refrain from demonstrations that are political in nature. In this case, Race didn’t adhere to the commitment he made to the organizing committee and the USOPC,” Mark Jones, Vice President of Communications, USOPC said in a statement on Saturday. “We respect his rights to express his viewpoints, but we are disappointed that he chose not to honor his commitment. Our leadership are reviewing what consequences may result.”
    Sounds like the athletes sign and agree to policies already in place to refrain from political grandstanding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccw9mm View Post
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    Doesn't surprise me.

    Particularly if, at present, there's no clear policy and conduct "agreement" for participants on the U.S. Olympic team, then I agree with a relatively light correction.

    If, though, such a policy for conduct does exist, then a "slap on the wrist" would (at least IMO) a miscarriage of justice.

    In future, hopefully a clear guideline will exist that all members of the team (staff, coaches, athletes and everyone else) must abide by, else being sanctioned by the team's governing body would kick in.
    Used to be folks generally had enough character to know right from wrong without need of having it spelled out.

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