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    Quote Originally Posted by Siam View Post
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    The hypocrisy on the Right (and Left) is that there should be NO laws about owning firearms at all. The Right says they are Pro 2A. My reply to that is that whatever they say is 100 % Bovine excrement.

    The Left may be worse. But that is like saying it is worse to have a spouse cheat on you with 10 people instead of 5.
    I suppose "shall not be infringed" means nothing to you?

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    I suppose "shall not be infringed" means nothing to you?
    I guess you missed this part of my post and many others about this topic:
    The hypocrisy on the Right (and Left) is that there should be NO laws about owning firearms at all.
    I think I got a good grasp on "shall not infringe means" since I do not care:

    1: Who owns a gun
    2: what type they own
    3: If they are a released felon
    4: If they have a mental illness
    5: If they are blind
    6: If they are a gangbanger but not in jail;

    In essence: I DO NOT CARE WHO OWNS a GUN and there should be NO laws.

    I think I have a better grasp at this than the right or left and many here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siam View Post
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    I guess you missed this part of my post and many others about this topic:


    I think I got a good grasp on "shall not infringe means" since I do not care:

    1: Who owns a gun
    2: what type they own
    3: If they are a released felon
    4: If they have a mental illness
    5: If they are blind
    6: If they are a gangbanger but not in jail;

    In essence: I DO NOT CARE WHO OWNS a GUN and there should be NO laws.

    I think I have a better grasp at this than the right or left and many here.
    I guess I was confused because I did not understand where you were finding hypocrisy.

    We both agree with all your list about what you don't care about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RScottie View Post
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    I guess I was confused because I did not understand where you were finding hypocrisy.

    We both agree with all your list about what you don't care about.
    Where to start. While Republicans have controlled both houses several times, they have not:

    1: Fought to abolish NICS (I do not think the Founding Founders (FF) ever envisioned that
    2: Roll back the GCA of 1968
    3: Able to get enough with enough gonads to actually roll back any gun laws

    They have supported bump stock bans, NICS, and Red Flag laws.

    And ANYONE that says we need "common sense gun laws" is not a proponent of the 2A

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siam View Post
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    Where to start. While Republicans have controlled both houses several times, they have not:

    1: Fought to abolish NICS (I do not think the Founding Founders (FF) ever envisioned that
    2: Roll back the GCA of 1968
    3: Able to get enough with enough gonads to actually roll back any gun laws

    They have supported bump stock bans, NICS, and Red Flag laws.

    And ANYONE that says we need "common sense gun laws" is not a proponent of the 2A
    I do not call the republicans "the right" any more. Perhaps this is where I was confused. Not your fault though.

    You are exactly right about the republicans. They squandered 2 years of opportunity to get bills passed when they had the House majority. But, Trump hater Paul Ryan was having none of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RScottie View Post
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    I do not call the republicans "the right" any more. Perhaps this is where I was confused. Not your fault though.

    You are exactly right about the republicans. They squandered 2 years of opportunity to get bills passed when they had the House majority. But, Trump hater Paul Ryan was having none of that.
    Exactly. In that time they could have repealed NFA, GCA, NICS, and all federal no weapons allowed policies.

    Instead they strengthened NICS, and banned bump stocks.

    Gov is gov. It's sole intent is to increase its power, and riches,. Disarming the citizenry into irrelevance is absolutely nessacary for that to occur.

    Regardless of who is in power.

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    Our government was founded by people distrustful of government and took office while distrustful of government
    Now it's the next best thing to Royalty for some lucky enough to get elected and stay "elected."

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