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    Quote from a Heinlein novel.

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    "Heinlein"

    He had MANY good quotes.

    "An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life."

    My favorite is: "There ain't no such thing as a free lunch"

    Which became TANSTAAFL.

    Also: "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea."

    And the best of all:

    "A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.”

    Read the book "Starship Troopers" and disregard the unrelated movie . . . or just watch it as a fun action shoot-'em-up. Worst book to movie adaptation ever.
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    I suppose it’s ok to be coddled occasionally.

    But never treat us like a minor child!! That’s unacceptable.

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    Sorry. By the time I noticed the l missing from Heinlein it was to late for me to edit the title. Misspelled words are embarrassing.
    I'll probably do it again.

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    Sorry. By the time I noticed the l missing from Heinlein it was to late for me to edit the title. Misspelled words are embarrassing.
    I'll probably do it again.
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    "Heinlein"

    He had MANY good quotes.

    "An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life."

    My favorite is: "There ain't no such thing as a free lunch"

    Which became TANSTAAFL.

    Also: "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea."

    And the best of all:

    "A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.

    Read the book "Starship Troopers" and disregard the unrelated movie . . . or just watch it as a fun action shoot-'em-up. Worst book to movie adaptation ever.
    Its a great book. The movie was not what I expected, but it had a few perky scenes.
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    It is a good quote, but I never could read much of Heinlein; I was young when I first picked up a book of his, and he seemed long winded. And that was that.
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    Aside from Mark Twain and Huckleberry Finn it wasn't required reading for me in most of my schooling from elementary to junior high then high school.

    I think it was Robert Heinlein who wrote this next bit. This tiny bit is all I remember right now..

    "If a man finds some law so repugnant he chooses to not obey it.." I tried to find this on YT with no luck. His quote further along I found quite inspiring. Something one of the Founding Fathers might have said while they were planning the Boston Tea Party or move their stores of powder and ball elsewhere where the redcoats would NOT find it in effect flipping off King George.

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    I suppose it’s ok to be coddled occasionally.

    But never treat us like a minor child!! That’s unacceptable.
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    Aside from Mark Twain and Huckleberry Finn it wasn't required reading for me in most of my schooling from elementary to junior high then high school.

    I think it was Robert Heinlein who wrote this next bit. This tiny bit is all I remember right now..

    "If a man finds some law so repugnant he chooses to not obey it.." I tried to find this on YT with no luck. His quote further along I found quite inspiring. Something one of the Founding Fathers might have said while they were planning the Boston Tea Party or move their stores of powder and ball elsewhere where the redcoats would NOT find it in effect flipping off King George.
    I found something like this attributed (incorrectly?) to Thomas Jefferson. "If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so." Good thought.
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    I found something like this attributed (incorrectly?) to Thomas Jefferson. "If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so." Good thought.
    I don't know if it were Tom Jefferson or even Heinlein to be honest. I saw it on a signature line here or the other place I often visit. assaultweb.net Having said that I like what you wrote too GR. If I can find it and I can finger it out I'd like to add it to my signature line because as Dylan wrote in a song "the Times.. they are a changing..."

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    But if it is, indeed, a law, then you must be willing to bear the consequences of disobeying it. That can mean anything from a parking ticket to being shot or going to jail. In a Republic, we obey the laws in the interest of the common good. We do not selectively obey them. That is anarchy. If we do not like the laws, we vote or campaign to change them. I get a little weary of the two-bit self-styled anarchists who prowl many of these sites.

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    But if it is, indeed, a law, then you must be willing to bear the consequences of disobeying it. That can mean anything from a parking ticket to being shot or going to jail. In a Republic, we obey the laws in the interest of the common good. We do not selectively obey them. That is anarchy. If we do not like the laws, we vote or campaign to change them. I get a little weary of the two-bit self-styled anarchists who prowl many of these sites.
    I think that this is the essence of civil disobedience. If I feel that a law is incorrect and want it changed, I may disobey it, but ethically must be willing to bear the consequences of disobedience to get it changed. Avoiding the consequences is a fast trip to anarchy and chaos.

    Ghandi disobeyed laws, but bore the consequences. Not too many people have the courage to do this. Antifa doesn't; they rail against police, at the same time, want the protection by police for their actions, and don't think that they should have any legal consequences either. They are snowflake anarchists. They will be the first useful idiots to go.

    I don't like a lot of laws, but don't have the fortitude or money to defy them and fight them in the courts, so I obey them. As long as we are still a nation of laws (yes, I'm aware that this is fast disappearing, but the immediate alternative is chaos) that's what I will do.
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    We do have a lot of laws. But, we have a lot of idiots. That is the price of Democracy...Plato said that the very idea that the majority of people knows what is best for them is ludicrous. But, if you are going to have the greatest degree of freedom for the most people, you have to put up with that.

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